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Cardinal Dolan: We’re Not Going To Excommunicate Cuomo Over Abortion Bill
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| 01/31/2019
| Ed Morrissey
Posted on 01/31/2019 6:59:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Not even if Andrew Cuomo seems ready to shift from abortion to infanticide? No, says New York City’s Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who complains in this clip from The Catholic Channel about the “far right” demanding such action. “Excommunication should not be used as a weapon,” Dolan argues, and points out that canon law in the Catholic Church doesn’t support such an action anyway.
Besides, Dolan argues, it might give Cuomo exactly what he wants — a kind of secular martyrdom:
“Notable canon lawyers have said that, under canon law, excommunication is not an appropriate response to a politician who supports or votes for legislation advancing abortion,” said the statement, which laid out “general principles” and did not address any specific individual.
“From a pastoral perspective, if a pastor — and a bishop is certainly a pastor of a diocese — knows of a grave situation involving a parishioner, it is his duty to address that issue personally and directly with the parishioner,” it said, adding that this is the approach of Cardinal Dolan as it was of his predecessors as New York’s archbishop, the late Cardinal John J. O’Connor and the late Cardinal Edward M. Egan.
I’m a great admirer of Cardinal Dolan, but he’s wrong here, and wrong to cast this as a “far right” issue as well. Dolan’s not incorrect about the issue with canon law, which is as binding on the episcopacy as much as Catholics in the pews. Last week, I wrote a lengthy explanation of the difficulties in using excommunication over political positions, difficulties which Dolan would understand in much greater detail than a member of the laity.
In brief, canon law and the catechism hold that procuring or directly assisting in the procurement of an abortion amounts to an excommunicative act “latae sententiae,” or in the commission of the act. In other words, it doesn’t take a bishop or the Vatican to issue a declaration of excommunication under those circumstances — it happens on its own. But that only applies to specific acts of abortion and specific acts of facilitation thereof, not votes or political positions in general.
Beyond that, though, Dolan argues that it’s a “strategic” mistake as well as tactically impossible:
“From a strategic perspective,” excommunication is not effective because “many politicians would welcome it as a sign of their refusal to be ‘bullied by the church,’ thinking it would therefore give them a political advantage,” the statement said.
As an example of this “political advantage,” it cited how in 1989, Bishop Leo T. Maher, then head of the Diocese of San Diego, gained national attention when he forbade California Senate candidate Lucy Killea, a state assemblywoman, from receiving Communion because of her support for legal abortion, which had become a prominent feature of her campaign.
Well, maybe. Having one politician win one election isn’t much more than an anecdote. The dangers of having the Cuomos and Nancy Pelosis continuing to represent themselves as pro-abortion Catholics — to the point of celebrating the grotesque legalization of abortion up to the moment of birth — goes beyond elections anyway. These high-profile Catholics lead others astray on Catholic teaching on life (and family issues too, for that matter), and the lack of formal response bolsters that impact. If Cuomo remains in good standing with the church after last week, other Catholics might rightly assume that they also can pick and choose which teachings they’ll abide and which they won’t without any consequences.
The “far right” is hardly the only group who’s noticed that Cuomo has begun to “brag … about his dissent from timeless and substantive church belief” even without punitive action within the church. A New York Post op-ed took Cuomo to task for that as well as misrepresenting Pope Francis and blaming the bishops for a failure of a bill on sexual abuse of minors.
Then our governor insults and caricatures the church in whats supposed to be an uplifting and unifying occasion, his State of the State address.
The bishops of this state have long supported a reform of the inadequate laws around the sexual abuse of minors. Yes, we and many others expressed reservations about one element, the retroactive elimination of the civil statute of limitations, but urged dramatic reform that, in many ways, was tougher than what was being proposed by legislators. A month ago we renewed that stance, and even dropped our objections to the look-back section if all victims would benefit. The governor was aware of all this.
Why, then, would he use his address to blame the church, and only the church, for blocking this bill? Why would he publicly brag in a political address about his dissent from timeless and substantive church belief? Why would he quote Pope Francis out of context as an applause line to misrepresent us bishops here as being opposed to our Holy Father? Why did he reduce the sexual abuse of minors, a broad societal and cultural curse that afflicts every family, public school, religion and government program, to a Catholic problem?
Im a pastor, not a politician, but I feel obliged to ask these questions, as daily do I hear them from my people, as well as colleagues from other creeds. Ive been attacked in the past when I asked sadly and reluctantly if the party that my folks proudly claimed as their own, the Democrats, had chosen to alienate faithful Catholic voters. Now you know why I asked.
Does this description sound like a politician who has any desire to remain in communion with the Catholic Church? Not at all. Want to know who wrote this? That figure of the “far right,” Cardinal Timothy Dolan.
The answer may not be excommunication under Canon 1398, but the Catholic Church has to answer Cuomo somehow. Wringing hands on The Catholic Channel is all well and good, but it’s clearly not more effective than what Bishop Maher did with Lucy Killea. In fact, as Cuomo slouches towards straight-out infanticide, it’s become clear that ignoring the issue of pro-abortion Catholic politicians over the last five decades has only made things worse — much much worse.
It’s time for the bishops to come up with a formal process to deal with this problem, whether based on Canon 1398 or a new canon law that directly touches on the issue. That process should be just, provide opportunities for mercy and conversion, but make it clear that embracing the culture of death means making a choice to leave the communion of the Catholic Church. That’s not “bullying” — it’s accountability, especially in Cuomo’s case.
TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; andrewcuomo; cardinaldolan; excommunication
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To: laplata
Fot chopped off, sorry:
I agree that 45 IS too many.
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posted on
01/31/2019 8:40:25 AM PST
by
Alas Babylon!
(The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
To: SeekAndFind
Speaking as a Missouri Synod Lutheran, I consider Cardinal Dolan a sellout. He displays the reason why the Reformation occurred.
Very possibly, the combination of a Socialist/Communist Pope and corrupt liberal Cardinals such as Dolan will trigger a second Reformation.
It is time for Christians...followers of Jesus Christ, not Organized Religions to unite to save not only our souls, but those of the unborn, targeted by the liberals.
And, I admit that my own nest was soiled. I was a member of the ELCA, until I saw how liberalism was displacing Christ in favor of cult.
Who is in favor of the Second Reformation? Abandon all Established Religions that have abandoned Christ in favor of Liberalisms Godless Cult!
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posted on
01/31/2019 8:43:29 AM PST
by
Redleg Duke
(Disarming Liberals...Real Common Sense Gun Control!)
To: SeekAndFind
“used as a weapon” is the dumbest thing anyone could have said, let alone a learned man, evidently a little short of brains.
It’s used as JUST PUNISHMENT FOR UNREPENTENT MORTAL SINS, your excellency (if that title is correct, it is a joke).
No wonder more Catholics are staying away from Church.
Until this insanity stops, Catholics will have to remain strong in their Faith on their own.
To: SeekAndFind
I think Dolan is a big phony.
64
posted on
01/31/2019 9:03:58 AM PST
by
Jimmy Valentine
(DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
To: budj; All
as long as you keep donating." Thanks for questioning that.
To: budj
"Easy: name the church where cuomo goes."
I'd be surprised to find out Cuomo actually attends church other than for the occasional photo op.
To: shelterguy
Im still waiting for the Catholics to speak out against anything a democrat does.
Mark Twain wrote, A man never reaches that dizzy height of wisdom that he can no longer be led by the nose.
When JPII was pope, the evilstream misleadia took me in more than once with fake news. Ive been working hard to develop a reflexive skepticism to everything they say, but theyll probably get me again, anyway.
The fakenews organs report the outrageous conduct of half a generation of despicable swine who, with the generous assistance of the Soviet Union and other forces of evil, have slithered into even the highest office of the Church. Satan laughs, and fakenews blares, Look, look at what the Church is.
Obviously, a person of good will would cease to credit the fakenews outlets on this subject as well.
A person who wanted to know something about what the Church is and has been for two thousand years would read Saint Alphonsus, Francis de Sales, and certainly William F. Buckleys Nearer, My God.
This prayer dates back about one thousand six hundred years, and is a literal translation from the old Irish text. I offer it for us all, and for our Constitution.
The Lorica (Breastplate) of Saint Patrick, Apostle to the Emerald Isle
I bind to myself today
The strong virtue of the Invocation of the Trinity:
I believe in the Trinity in Unity
The Creator of the Universe.
I bind to myself today
The virtue of the Incarnation of Christ with His Baptism,
The virtue of His crucifixion with His burial,
The virtue of His Resurrection with His Ascension,
The virtue of His coming on the Judgement Day.
I bind to myself today
The virtue of the love of seraphim,
In the obedience of angels,
In the hope of resurrection unto reward,
In prayers of Patriarchs,
In predictions of Prophets,
In preaching of Apostles,
In faith of Confessors,
In purity of holy Virgins,
In deeds of righteous men.
I bind to myself today
The power of Heaven,
The light of the sun,
The brightness of the moon,
The splendour of fire,
The flashing of lightning,
The swiftness of wind,
The depth of sea,
The stability of earth,
The compactness of rocks.
I bind to myself today
Gods Power to guide me,
Gods Might to uphold me,
Gods Wisdom to teach me,
Gods Eye to watch over me,
Gods Ear to hear me,
Gods Word to give me speech,
Gods Hand to guide me,
Gods Way to lie before me,
Gods Shield to shelter me,
Gods Host to secure me,
Against the snares of demons,
Against the seductions of vices,
Against the lusts of nature,
Against everyone who meditates injury to me,
Whether far or near,
Whether few or with many.
I invoke today all these virtues
Against every hostile merciless power
Which may assail my body and my soul,
Against the incantations of false prophets,
Against the black laws of heathenism,
Against the false laws of heresy,
Against the deceits of idolatry,
Against the spells of women, and smiths, and druids,
Against every knowledge that binds the soul of man.
Christ, protect me today
Against poison, against burning,
Against drowning, against death-wound,
That I may receive abundant reward.
Christ with me, Christ before me,
Christ behind me, Christ within me,
Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ at my right, Christ at my left,
Christ in the fort,
Christ in the chariot seat,
Christ in the pupi deck,
Christ in the heart of everyone who thinks of me,
Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks to me,
Christ in every eye that sees me,
Christ in every ear that hears me.
I bind to myself today
The strong virtue of the Invocation of the Trinity,
I believe in the Trinity in Unity
The Creator of the Universe.
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posted on
01/31/2019 9:11:50 AM PST
by
dsc
(Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
To: Maris Crane
RE: your excellency (if that title is correct, it is a joke).
Actually, the use the title YOUR EMINENCE for Cardinals.
68
posted on
01/31/2019 9:38:31 AM PST
by
SeekAndFind
(look at Michigan, it will)
To: SeekAndFind
No, not as long as he keeps the money flowing to Catholic Charities for refugees.
69
posted on
01/31/2019 9:38:46 AM PST
by
I want the USA back
(In any war between the civilized world and the savage support the civilized man. -Geller.)
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
01/31/2019 9:40:47 AM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: SeekAndFind
Once again, as usual, the Catholic Church is going against the 10 Commandments.
71
posted on
01/31/2019 9:47:19 AM PST
by
bgill
(CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.S)
To: Alas Babylon!
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posted on
01/31/2019 9:48:40 AM PST
by
laplata
(The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
To: bgill
Once again, as usual, the Catholic Church is going against the 10 Commandments.and they wonder why people are not attending their church.
73
posted on
01/31/2019 9:48:47 AM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: SeekAndFind
Another Apostate church. And the foretold “Great Falling Away” continues apace.
74
posted on
01/31/2019 10:19:24 AM PST
by
fella
("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
To: SeekAndFind
The catholic church is done.
75
posted on
01/31/2019 10:32:36 AM PST
by
Tx Angel
(Insert witty tagline here)
To: Empireoftheatom48; laplata
Why do you think so many Catholics continue to vote for evil people like Cuomo? The election of JFK and the advent of Vatican II forever changed the Church, for the worse. Out went Bishop Fulton J Sheen and in came the Hootenanny mass and liberation theology. It's been all downhill since.
To: MHGinTN
Cuomo is the face of actual catholicism
Considering the fact that most Catholics vote Democrat over and over and over, I fear you may be right.
To: JonPreston
“The election of JFK and the advent of Vatican II forever changed the Church, for the worse. Out went Bishop Fulton J Sheen and in came the Hootenanny mass and liberation theology. It’s been all downhill since”.
That’s the best explanation I’ve seen. Thank you.
I remember watching Bishop Sheen on TV.
I remember when the Latin Mass was stopped.
I remember my aunt crying with sadness when she saw them bring in a guitar to play during mass.
Etc., etc., etc.
78
posted on
01/31/2019 10:41:50 AM PST
by
laplata
(The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
To: JonPreston
Catholics were a reliable Democrat voting bloc long before Vatican II. It had its roots in showing “solidarity” with Irish immigrants and getting the Church entangled in the Labor Movement with people such as Father Charles Coughlin and Monsignor Charles Owen Rice.
The Republican Party was seen as too WASPish.
To: SeekAndFind
Why?
Oh yeah,Donations.
Great church ya all have there.
80
posted on
01/31/2019 12:07:13 PM PST
by
Joe Boucher
( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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