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To: af_vet_1981; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone; Luircin; metmom
Which Philippine restorationst faith community would that be bro?

Aforementioned, as in post 22 and even prior to that in this thread.

Hog wash sir. It appears you know nothing about the Philippines. Have you ever been there? No self respecting INC member would EVER call himself part of the restorationist faith community. They are exactly the opposite. My MIL is an INC member. They are hostile to Catholics and evangelicals alike. The INC is just another false religion, equally as bad as Mormonism or JWs.

Yes, he that endures to the end shall be saved. The Messiah emphasized this truth and warned His disciples many times to watch and always be ready.

I disagree with your interpretation of scripture bro, as I ALWAYS do. You take it completely out of context. Jesus was not talking about Heaven or Hell, but physically surviving the tribulation period. A period I knew nothing about, when I was a catholic. Nice try bro, but it won’t cut the mustard. I suggest you do some serious Bible study, in context, and without any random verse generating. 👎

45 posted on 12/30/2018 2:54:18 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
Jesus was not talking about Heaven or Hell, but physically surviving the tribulation period.

No, it is much more general than that. There are many sayings of the Messiah to all disciples to watch, not for the time of Jacob's Trouble, not for the fall of Jerusalem, but for the day of their reckoning. Additionally, to all who have ears to hear, each must endure, overcome, persevere to be saved. Consider the seven genuine churches in Asia that were part of the one holy catholic apostolic Church. They not only had to endure persecution, but also to maintain works, works, works.

  • He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
  • He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
  • He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
  • And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
  • He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
  • Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
  • To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.


Revelation, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verse seven,
Revelation, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verse eleven,
Revelation, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verse seventeen,
Revelation, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verse twenty six,
Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verse five,
Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verse twelve,
Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verse twenty one,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

53 posted on 12/30/2018 4:14:42 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mark17
No self respecting INC member would EVER call himself part of the restorationist faith community.

Iglesia Ni Cristo believes they are the restoration, and outside their little group, there is no salvation.

After the fall of Israel, she was replaced by the Church Of Christ (I Pet. 2:9, 3-5; Matt. 16:18; Rom. 16:16; Acts 20:28, Lamsa Translation). Eventually, after the death of the Apostles, this Church which was established by Christ in the first century departed from the true faith. It was apostatized (Matt. 24:4, 11; Acts 20:29-30; I Tim. 4:1-3).

In these last days, God sent His messenger to administer man’s return to the true teachings of the Church. And it is in the Philippines (in the Far East) where God sent an angel or messenger to preach the true and pure Gospel of Christ to the people in order to bring them back to the true Church (Rev. 7:2-3; Isa. 43:5-7).

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The Iglesia Ni Cristo believes that the task of understanding God’s words in the Bible, and teaching them without any alteration, without adding or diminishing, is given exclusively to the messengers of God (Mark 4:11-12; Rom. 10:15; Deut. 12:32).

We believe that the late Brother Felix Y. Manalo is God’s last messenger; he was the fulfillment of the Biblical prophecies concerning the messenger from the Far East (Rev. 7:2-3) who would preach to God’s sons and daughters in these last days (Isa. 43:5-6; 46:11; 41:9-11). God reveals the meaning of His words to His messengers by means of the Holy Spirit (II Pet. 1:20-21), and the proof that the messengers were taught by the Holy Spirit is that their teachings never contradict one another (I Cor. 2:13).

54 posted on 12/30/2018 4:20:15 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mark17
Not about physically surviving the tribulation period, but certainly about watching and not misbehaving; so that upon the Lord's return not being cut asunder and assigned a portion with the unbelievers or being beaten with stripes. Note that this even includes the Apostles as well.

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

Luke, Catholic chapter twelve, Protestant verses thirty two to forty eight,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

56 posted on 12/30/2018 4:29:55 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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