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To: SeekAndFind
I am a Christian, admittedly a very failed one. For many years I have lived with diagnosed depression and have contemplated suicide more times than could be counted.

It's about wanting to escape the hurt, pain, doubt. Doubt in God most of all. When you hate yourself for doubting that God is there or that He hears you or that your life is a mistake He made... then death becomes all the more tempting. Maybe you'll end up in Heaven. Maybe you'll go to Hell. Either is preferable to the pain. If God sends you to Hell, at least He cared enough for that one fleeting moment in His eternal mind to think about you. It's enough of a comforting thought to lead one over the edge or pretty damn too close to it.

I want to believe that He has mercy on those who take their own lives, but otherwise would never contemplate it had their minds not been so wracked with hurt that can't be flicked off like a light switch, no matter how some Christians think it can.

20 posted on 12/24/2018 8:48:54 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (FreeRepublic.com is the most-used app on my iPhone.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Either is preferable to the pain.

That's a supposition. There's no way of knowing if suicide will end the emotional pain of this life or not.

That said, I have suffered from depression at several points in my life. The pain can be profound.

21 posted on 12/24/2018 8:53:11 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Ciaphas Cain
It's easy for people with some distance to get very theoretical and philosophical about this issue. The 10 commandments, Aquinas, whatever. Then someone like yourself comes forward and has the courage to express their own stuggles, make them real and human. Maybe in doing so you've helped some people who were left behind after a suicide, wondering why it could have happened, if it was somehow their fault.

I married into a family that, it turns out, has a lot of mental illness and depression running through it. I've gotten to know just how deeply their dark spells change them. My empathy for people who suffer through that, people like yourself, is very high. I sincerely hope that you're doing well now. When you feel those dark thoughts, I pray you'll find a way through to the other side without doing anything to harm yourself. People do care.

27 posted on 12/24/2018 9:01:37 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

One of my best business friends lost his direction via alcoholism.
He took his own life with a .38 revolver in a parking ramp near his home at Green Bay.
This was in 1989 or ‘90.

I think about him often.


43 posted on 12/24/2018 9:39:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Sorry for your troubles.

Don’t give up.

This too shall pass.

Try to find and celebrate the good in every day.

None of us knows if Heaven or Hell awaits our end. But we do know that we are called to put on Christ, seek sainthood, love the God of life, and love our neighbor as ourselves.

When I’m in a funk, I try to do something good for someone else; relieves me from staring at my own navel.

God Bless.


53 posted on 12/24/2018 10:46:06 AM PST by karnage
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To: Ciaphas Cain
It's about wanting to escape the hurt, pain, doubt.

It's also a one-way door.

What if it turned out, that the next world is a clear view to all the pain and suffering inflicted upon those left behind, and/or of the knowledge of what was supposed to have been, if only the deceased had stayed with the plan.

It would be a hell of a person's own making. Yikes.

Hang in there everyone, and Merry Christmas.

I think suicide is up in this day and age because Redemption really is right around the corner.

56 posted on 12/24/2018 11:17:51 AM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain
I want to believe that He has mercy on those who take their own lives, but otherwise would never contemplate it had their minds not been so wracked with hurt that can't be flicked off like a light switch, no matter how some Christians think it can.

You CAN believe it, my FRiend! He tells us in His word:

    Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him. For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust. (Psalm 103:13,14)

The Prophet Jeremiah knew what it meant to be despondent and hopeless, yet...

    Jeremiah's Hope

    Remember my affliction and wandering, the wormwood and the gall. Surely my soul remembers and is humbled within me. Yet I call this to mind, and therefore I have hope: Because of the LORD’s loving devotion we are not consumed, for His compassions never fail. They are new every morning; great is Your faithfulness! “The LORD is my portion,” says my soul, “therefore I will hope in Him.” (Lamentations 3:19-24)

I will be praying for you that you are reminded of His everlasting love and your hope in Him is renewed. :o)

77 posted on 12/24/2018 6:20:09 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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