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Football coach is fired for attending funeral of teen he 'bullied' against his parents' wishes...
Daily Mail UK ^ | DECEMBER 17, 2018 | Jennifer Smith

Posted on 12/17/2018 12:53:25 PM PST by Morgana

FULL TITLE: Football coach is fired for attending funeral of teen he 'bullied' against his parents' wishes then taunting them on Facebook after the service where the boy's parents say the priest painted their son as a 'sinner'

A full version of the homily LaCuesta's homily has also emerged but it does not make reference to heaven as the boy's parents said it did.

According to the version which was circulated on Monday, the priest said: 'I think that we must not call what is bad good, what is wrong right.

'Because we are Christians, we must say what we know is the truth – that taking your own life is against God who made us and against everyone who loves us.

'Our lives are not our own. They are not ours to do with as we please. God gave us life, and we are to be good stewards of that gift for as long as God permits.

'The finality of suicide makes this all the worse. You cannot make things right again.'

He did not mention the word heaven but said: 'Christ Jesus sits at the right hand of God even now, interceding for this one who could not stand before God on his/her own.

'Truly, none of us can stand before God on our own. We all need Christ to intercede for us, to plead our case. And here's the good news: Christ has never lost a case!'

Though he said that God would forgive 'all', 'even suicide', the fact that he use the word so many times was hurtful to Maison's parents.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Campion

ANd how many homilies has this priest preached against the rampant homos and boy lovers he works around daily?
Or is he the ONE guy who went thru seminary and his whole career and never knew of or saw a thing?


41 posted on 12/17/2018 2:16:48 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Morgana

The grammar is atrocious. The parents wished the coach didn’t bully their kid? Geez.


42 posted on 12/17/2018 2:17:51 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Campion

No, technically it isn’t an abuse. The cruelty the low life priest inflicted was well within that legalistic structures centuries of canon lawyers have approved of.

It was all very “legal”.

He’s a moron.


43 posted on 12/17/2018 2:19:16 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
calumny

Noun

1.A falsification or misrepresentation intended to disparage or discredit another.

2.False accusations or charges brought to tarnish another's reputation or standing.

44 posted on 12/17/2018 2:20:34 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: DesertRhino

A lady I knew once that locked her kids outside after school and od’ed on pain killers. (Some years earlier she had a back injury.)

At her funeral the priest talked about suicide being a sin, suffering and mental illness. He told the guests that whether she was in Heaven was God’s call, not ours or his and above his pay grade.


45 posted on 12/17/2018 2:22:15 PM PST by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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To: Alberta's Child

I wonder if this was the family’s attitude all through their son’s life - that they could not bear to hear anything that they didn’t want to hear and became hugely upset if anyone went against their wishes. This type of dynamic leads to anxiety, and then depression.


46 posted on 12/17/2018 2:23:09 PM PST by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Alberta's Child

> I suspect there’s more to this story than meets the eye.

I bet there’s a homosexual aspect that’s being studiously and purposely ignored in the reporting.


47 posted on 12/17/2018 2:23:28 PM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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To: Morgana

Even at the kids funeral? He was coaching him to what end at the funeral?


48 posted on 12/17/2018 2:27:57 PM PST by Republic_Venom (It's time for some Republic Venom!)
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To: Morgana

” chances are he did not go to heaven and that is what the Church teaches. “

hmmm. What does the Bible say ...


49 posted on 12/17/2018 2:29:13 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: DesertRhino
A funeral isn’t a public inquest and inquiry into the sins of the dead.

And his homily wasn't that, sorry.

his mission was a little comfort for those grieving parents

His mission is to preach the Gospel. Period.

50 posted on 12/17/2018 2:40:29 PM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: DesertRhino
ANd how many homilies has this priest preached against the rampant homos and boy lovers he works around daily?

This amounts to an ad hominem, since there's no number of homilies he could possibly have preached on the subject that would satisfy you. You're basically saying that he has no right to preach the truth because some other priests are bad actors. Sorry, that doesn't wash.

51 posted on 12/17/2018 2:42:18 PM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: thoughtomator

Interesting speculation. I hadn’t even thought about that.


52 posted on 12/17/2018 2:45:25 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Morgana

if he was told not to attend and did anyway, i have no problem with him getting his azz beat...


53 posted on 12/17/2018 2:48:56 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Morgana
Don't know what happened between this family and the coach but the Priest is correct. Unless that kid was so mentally Ill and was very far gone that he did not know what he was doing chances are he did not go to heaven and that is what the Church teaches.

We can be thankful the New Testament teaches the Truth and not that bag of garbage that has surfaced about Roman Catholicism on this issue.

On more than occasion Christ promises that for those who believe in Him they will have eternal life.

But Rome's position on this issue has changed over time....hence my tagline.

54 posted on 12/17/2018 2:53:36 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: FourtySeven
Was he (Father) correct, theologically, in everything he said?

He wasn't close to being Scripturally correct.....there is a difference between Roman Catholicism and New Testament Christianity.

And we may be thankful for that.

55 posted on 12/17/2018 2:55:09 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Morgana
We don’t have proof if either!

Given what's going on in the RCC priesthood.....it's an even money bet at this point.

56 posted on 12/17/2018 2:56:23 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Morgana

So sick of you smug old farts.


57 posted on 12/17/2018 2:57:26 PM PST by Scarpetta (The election of Donald Trump is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: Chicory
I read the priest’s homily, and it was all about how despite his having committed suicide, there are many avenues for his attaining salvation despite this most serious sin.

There is only one avenue for salvation....faith in Christ.

For Catholics who actually know their faith, this would have been comforting.

I read the text as well and comments from another thread by a RCC canon lawyer on this topic.

There is nothing comforting not knowing whether your child is going to Heaven or not. Roman Catholicism teaches their believers don't know for sure if they've made it.

Fortunately, the New Testament contains the promises of Christ that for those who believe in Him they will have eternal life.

58 posted on 12/17/2018 2:59:49 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Morgana
Was he just being tough on the kid or was the kid and his parents just snowflakes who could not take the heat?

Wow. What compassion. I hope you're not a grief counselor in any capacity.

59 posted on 12/17/2018 3:01:52 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: TexasGator

Roman catholics don’t go by the Bible as they should. They have their “Tradition” to guide them.


60 posted on 12/17/2018 3:03:01 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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