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To: ealgeone; ZULU

“And we no longer have a Temple.”

But we still have statues. And we STILL don’t worship them.

“But no where were the Jews ever commanded to bow before or pray to the statues that were in the Temple.”

And we aren’t commanded to bow before them or pray to them either. And we don’t pray to statues at all. Your entire view of this is built on your false premise.

“Throughout the Bible they were instructed to NOT bow before or pray to idols.”

Again, we are not commanded to bow to statues or to pray to them and we don’t pray to them at all. We have no idols. I don’t bow to statues either.

“Same for non-Jews. We are to avoid idolatry.”

And I do. I worship only God. I’ve never worshiped anything or anyone else.

“Roman Catholicism on the other hand does teach its adherents to do just that...worship idols....and to rely upon the apparition to avoid the hell fire by the wearing of a piece of cloth.”

Actually Catholicism NEVER teaches idolatry. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm

“Why did you stop?”

Two reasons: 1) I was only going to wear it for a short time, 2) a skin disease made it uncomfortable and I did not want to exacerbate the effects of that disease.

“These apparitions all claim to be Mary under various names. All are false in their message.”

Your opinion - which you have shown in the past to be grossly misinformed on every spiritual subject - doesn’t really matter.

“Yet you admit that one time you wore the Scapular....so you believed the false promises of the apparition.”

1) I said I wore a scapular.
2) I never said I wore “the Scapular”.
3) You apparently don’t know that there are different kinds of scapulars and they are worn for different reasons.
4) There was no long list of promises attached to the scapular I wore. There was only one - that it would aid in conversion. The mere physical presence of it aided my conversion because it reminded me to pray, to give thanks to God, to study, to think of the needs of others, and so on.

“Yes...the photos are clear of Roman Catholics bowing before idols of Mary.”

We have no idols of Mary. We have statues. We don’t worship any of them. We don’t pray to any of them.

“That you want to continue to deny what is happening is understandable.”

I don’t deny anything that is true. You simply continue to post what is false - and others here who aren’t even Catholic know you’re posting what is false.

“Just wait until you disagree with vlad....you ain’t seen nothing yet.”

I debate with tenacity. That’s true. What I don’t do is lie. Maybe one day anti-Catholics here will be able to say the same? Maybe.

“Actually, there is a segment of Roman Catholicism that would do just that to non-Roman Catholics if they could. The Office of the Inquisition is still around...it’s just under another name.”

I’ve always said that anti-Catholics live in a paranoid twilight world. I think you’re proving that for me.


58 posted on 11/25/2018 11:37:12 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
>>“Actually, there is a segment of Roman Catholicism that would do just that to non-Roman Catholics if they could. The Office of the Inquisition is still around...it’s just under another name.”<<

I’ve always said that anti-Catholics live in a paranoid twilight world. I think you’re proving that for me.

Actually, I think your buddy would if he could.

62 posted on 11/25/2018 2:08:40 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: vladimir998
>>“These apparitions all claim to be Mary under various names. All are false in their message.”<<

Your opinion - which you have shown in the past to be grossly misinformed on every spiritual subject - doesn’t really matter.

To be clear...you are saying these are not claiming to be Mary?

Vald....you wouldn't know you're wrong if it was staring you in the mirror. You've been proven wrong in numerous threads. Your ego just won't let you see that.

63 posted on 11/25/2018 2:12:11 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: vladimir998
>>“Just wait until you disagree with vlad....you ain’t seen nothing yet.”<<

I debate with tenacity. That’s true. What I don’t do is lie. Maybe one day anti-Catholics here will be able to say the same? Maybe.

Well....yes you do lie. Hate to break it to you.

65 posted on 11/25/2018 2:16:01 PM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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