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To: NorthMountain

Things will never be all sweetness and light until the Consecration of Russia. But things were a lot sweeter before VCII than then they are now.

No pre-conciliar pope ever set foot in a mosque or a synagogue. No pre-concilar pope universally suppressed the Mass codified by St. Pius V and imposed what Cardianl Ratzinger called, “a banal on-the-spot product”. No pre-concilar pope ever worshipped together with non-Catholics or held Assisi love feasts. No preconcilar popes ever called for Synods to discuss (and later approve) Holy Communion for those in mortal sin. No pre=concilar popes called for synods to consider pre-marital sex, cohabitation, homosexual sex, etc.

As a matter a fact, thanks to VC II, things went from semi-sweet to downright sour.


43 posted on 10/11/2018 8:38:09 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Things will never be all sweetness and light until the Consecration of Russia. Jesus comes back at the end of the age. There's a reason we refer to this life as "weeping and mourning in this vale of tears". I'm quite confident that you've heard (even said) that phrase before.

I'll point out that at NO time in this conversation have I ever said or implied that this present (post V-2) darkness is anything other than darkness. I am highlighting the fact that this darkness grew, gathered strength, festered and suppurated, in the Church before V-2. I am highlighting the fact that the men who devised and promoted this darkness were educated, formed, ordained, and consecrated by the Church before V-2. Insofar as "Traditional Catholicism" and "the Church before V-2" are synonymous, "Traditional Catholicism" must bear some significant blame for allowing this present darkness to happen. Vatican II did not occur in a vacuum.

Finally, I am calling folks to recognize that if we are to dispel this present darkness, we must do more than just return to "Traditional Catholicism". We must also do what "Traditional Catholicism" failed to do in the XIX and XX Centuries. We must take effective steps to identify and expel the sodomites, heretics, and infidels who endeavor to turn Jesus Christ's Church (and ours, for per St. Paul we are the "Body of Christ") into a hellhole.

44 posted on 10/11/2018 9:15:48 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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