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[Cath Cauc] Source: Vatican cardinal was at drug-fueled homosexual party, and Pope knows it
LifeSite News ^ | October 10, 2018 | John-Henry Westen and Maike Hickson

Posted on 10/10/2018 1:31:10 PM PDT by ebb tide

ROME, October 10, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio, a close collaborator of Pope Francis, was present at the homosexual drug-fuelled party raided by the Vatican police in the summer of 2017 at which his secretary, Monsignor Luigi Capozzi, was arrested.

A highly-placed Vatican source with direct knowledge, who must remain anonymous for fear of reprisal, tells LifeSite that the Pope himself knows of Coccopalmerio’s presence at the party. The party took place in an apartment in the building of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF).

Coccopalmerio was head of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts until his retirement in April.

The same Vatican source spoke in more depth in a private meeting this summer with a group of priests, three of whom spoke to LifeSite about it.

One of these priests told LifeSite that according to the Vatican source, Cardinal Coccopalmerio, 80, was not only an attendee. The source said “in fact, that he ‘was presiding’ over it when the Vatican Gendarmes broke in, and that they instructed him to absent himself before they started making arrests,” according to the priest.

Another priest who was at the private meeting said the Vatican source “stated clearly to me and a number of others that, when the police raided the apartment and arrested Capozzi, Cardinal Coccopalmerio was actually present at the orgy.” He was then told by the police to leave “immediately.” This priest added that the source “gave us to understand that Coccopalmerio is a practicing homosexual.”

A third priest told LifeSite that he “heard in an informal conversation in the presence of other priests from a high-ranking cleric within the Roman Curia” that at the reported 'homosexual orgy' “said Cardinal was present and quickly whisked away by Vatican police.”

As LifeSiteNews reported earlier, Pope Francis himself insisted that Monsignor Capozzi be given that apartment in the CDF building, instead of the secretary of the then-prefect for the CDF, Cardinal Gerhard Müller.

Coccopalmerio has spoken in the past about the “positive realities” that can be found in homosexual relationships. Prior to working in the Vatican he was an auxiliary bishop of Milan under Cardinal Carlo Martini. He said in a 2014 interview with Rossoporpora: “If I meet a homosexual couple, I notice immediately that their relationship is illicit: the doctrine says this, which I reaffirm with absolute certainty. However, if I stop at the doctrine, I don’t look anymore at the persons. But if I see that the two persons truly love each other, do acts of charity to those in need, for example ... then I can also say that, although the relationship remains illicit, positive elements also emerge in the two persons. Instead of closing our eyes to such positive realities, I emphasize them. It is to be objective and objectively recognize the positive [parts] of a certain relationship, of itself illicit.”

The cardinal’s reduction of moral truth to a vague notional status (an “ideal”), with no necessary bearing on conduct, is the same as Pope Francis' approach in his post-synodal exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

Accordingly, Coccopalmerio is a strong supporter of Amoris Laetitia. He wrote a booklet titled The eighth Chapter of the post-synodal apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia praising the more lenient attitude toward “remarried divorcees.” Holy Communion, insisted the cardinal, “must be given” to them.

Benjamin Leven, a German theologian and editor of the German Catholic journal Herder Korrespondenz, explains in the October 2018 issue of that journal that, according to his own sources, it was Cardinal Coccopalmerio who approached the Pope in favor of the child abuser Don Mauro Inzoli in order to have him partially reinstated as priest. As Leven puts it, in this incident Coccopalmerio played here “an unworthy role.” This cardinal, Leven continues, is known in Rome for generally opposing the removal of culprit priests from the priesthood, which for him is a sort of “death penalty.”

In light of these new revelations, the fact that the roof of St. Joseph the Carpenter Church, Coccopalmerio's own titular Church in Rome, collapsed in August 2018 might gain further significance.

RELATED: Pope knowingly gave Vatican apartment to gay priest later caught in cocaine-fuelled orgy



TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: coccopalmerio; francischurch; homos; modernists
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To: ebb tide; sitetest
Beats the "solution" employed in the XIX and XX Centuries.

And for the record, I have decided to join the Society of St. Pius I. You want TRADITIONAL Catholicism, baby, you gotta go whole hog!

21 posted on 10/10/2018 3:05:03 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide
I can now finally agree with you.

I humbly suggest that if you go back and read my commentary in the other thread, you'll see that I've been saying the same thing all along.

22 posted on 10/10/2018 3:07:21 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
And the threat of sodomites, heretics, and infidels was already entrenched then ... and the Church did NOTHING effective to combat them.

The Church did do something then:

Pope St. Pius V:

“Therefore, wishing to pursue with greater rigor than we have exerted since the beginning of our pontificate, we establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss,”

23 posted on 10/10/2018 3:10:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I’m cool with that. Cuts down on recidivism.


24 posted on 10/10/2018 3:14:40 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: NorthMountain
You want TRADITIONAL Catholicism, baby, you gotta go whole hog!

Thanks, but I never left it.

25 posted on 10/10/2018 3:19:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Let us be clear that by "then", I am referring to the XIX and XX Centuries. St. Piux V was long since dead by "then", and his policies had fallen into disuse.

And this confusion of times points to the danger of using the term "Traditional" ... in 2000 years of history, what is "Traditional"? Were the 1930s, 1940s or 1950s "Traditional"? The actions taken with respect to sodomites, heretics, and infidels was to shuffle them around or temporarily silence them. Some of the malefactors at V-2 had, in fact, been told to shut up earlier ... then allowed back in. They should have been laicized and excommunicated. Which response to such folk is "Traditional"?

And to keep with the topic of this thread ...

One does not get to the point of having coked-up sodomite orgies in the Vatican without being a known queer for a long time. This dude needed to be kicked out a long time ago. Probably in about 1960.

26 posted on 10/10/2018 3:20:29 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide
I never left it.

Hah! Not like we of the SSPI have it!

27 posted on 10/10/2018 3:21:04 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide; sitetest
let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss,”

Yeah, right ... These days, the "secular authority" would award them a medal for "courage" ...

But at least they'd be somebody else's problem.

28 posted on 10/10/2018 3:22:49 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
One does not get to the point of having coked-up sodomite orgies in the Vatican without being a known queer for a long time. This dude needed to be kicked out a long time ago. Probably in about 1960.

How about a pope who covers up for him and other homosexual clergy?

29 posted on 10/10/2018 3:24:19 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
You mean the guy I called "Frankie the Talking Heretic"?

What do you suppose I think of him?

30 posted on 10/10/2018 3:26:15 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
Not like we of the SSPI have it!

Never said you didn't. Why so combative?

31 posted on 10/10/2018 3:26:19 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

If you have anything resembling a sense of humor, please go read the article at my “SSPI” link.


32 posted on 10/10/2018 3:27:28 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Is this a LOL?

If not, then I want to note that the OT was written in Hebrew, not Greek.

Just sayin’


33 posted on 10/10/2018 4:03:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: NorthMountain

If he was ordained on 28 June 1962, that was before the Second Vatican Council, which opened on 11 Oct. 1962.


34 posted on 10/10/2018 4:15:02 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: NorthMountain
The Second Vatican Council closed in 1965.

The Oath Against Modernism, required by all religious to proclaim as mandated by Pope St. Pius X in 1910, was rescinded by Paul VI in 1967.

Paul VI suppressed the TLM, in favor of Bugnini's Mess. He returned to the Turks their flag captured by the Christian fleet at the Battle of Lepanto. He proclaimed the U.N. to be the greatest hope for mankind.

Paul VI was born, raised, ordained, consecrated and elected to the papacy all prior to VCII.

Paul VI will be canonized by a pope who was elected post-VCII this very month. The same pope who has just used the Blessed Mother for his nefarious plans:

“Mary cannot be the mother of the corrupt because the corrupt would sell their own mother, they would sell their belongings to a family, to a people,” the pope said. “They look for their own profit, whether it’s economic, intellectual, political, of any kind.”

35 posted on 10/10/2018 4:43:36 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain

Have you noticed that all the popes who have been canonized by the post-conciliar popes were their own fellow post-conciliar predecessor popes?

It seems like they’re trying perpetuate the “New Pentecost” and forget the real Pentecost.


36 posted on 10/10/2018 5:02:49 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
The Oath Against Modernism, required by all religious to proclaim as mandated by Pope St. Pius X in 1910, did what, exactly, to suppress the errors of those who turned Vatican II into a disaster? Nothing, apparently.

Paul VI was born, raised, ordained, consecrated and elected to the papacy all prior to VCII.

He was elected Pope during V-2 ... even with that, you're supporting my point that the various forms of rot which exploded after V-2 existed in large quantity in the Church before V-2.

As to your quote, presumably from FtTH ... it doesn't even make sense. The man is gibbering.

37 posted on 10/10/2018 6:25:28 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
He was elected Pope during V-2 ...

Yes, he was. However, his predecessor, John XXIII is quoted as saying his last words on his deathbed, as reported by Jean Guitton, the only Catholic layman to serve as a peritus at the Council: "Stop the Council; stop the Council."

Paul VI kept it going.

And here we are today. Thanks to the Council.

38 posted on 10/10/2018 6:56:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
He was elected Pope during V-2 ... even with that, you're supporting my point that the various forms of rot which exploded after V-2 existed in large quantity in the Church before V-2.

I've already pointed out to you that Pope St. Pius X was aware of the rot back in 1907.

The rot is modernism and its spawn was VCII and the Novus Ordo. And I hope you know what "novus" means.

39 posted on 10/10/2018 7:01:21 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
As to your quote, presumably from FtTH ... it doesn't even make sense. The man is gibbering.

He's been gibbering since his election, to put it kindly.

By the way, he was ordained a priest in 1969, post VCII.

40 posted on 10/10/2018 7:11:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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