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To: ebb tide
The Oath Against Modernism, required by all religious to proclaim as mandated by Pope St. Pius X in 1910, did what, exactly, to suppress the errors of those who turned Vatican II into a disaster? Nothing, apparently.

Paul VI was born, raised, ordained, consecrated and elected to the papacy all prior to VCII.

He was elected Pope during V-2 ... even with that, you're supporting my point that the various forms of rot which exploded after V-2 existed in large quantity in the Church before V-2.

As to your quote, presumably from FtTH ... it doesn't even make sense. The man is gibbering.

37 posted on 10/10/2018 6:25:28 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
He was elected Pope during V-2 ...

Yes, he was. However, his predecessor, John XXIII is quoted as saying his last words on his deathbed, as reported by Jean Guitton, the only Catholic layman to serve as a peritus at the Council: "Stop the Council; stop the Council."

Paul VI kept it going.

And here we are today. Thanks to the Council.

38 posted on 10/10/2018 6:56:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
He was elected Pope during V-2 ... even with that, you're supporting my point that the various forms of rot which exploded after V-2 existed in large quantity in the Church before V-2.

I've already pointed out to you that Pope St. Pius X was aware of the rot back in 1907.

The rot is modernism and its spawn was VCII and the Novus Ordo. And I hope you know what "novus" means.

39 posted on 10/10/2018 7:01:21 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
As to your quote, presumably from FtTH ... it doesn't even make sense. The man is gibbering.

He's been gibbering since his election, to put it kindly.

By the way, he was ordained a priest in 1969, post VCII.

40 posted on 10/10/2018 7:11:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NorthMountain
The Oath Against Modernism, required by all religious to proclaim as mandated by Pope St. Pius X in 1910, did what, exactly, to suppress the errors of those who turned Vatican II into a disaster? Nothing, apparently.

Unfortunately, many council fathers broke their oaths. However, some few Catholic clergy held to their oath. And thanks to them we still have the TLM. I thinks it's hilarious that Bergoglio is now calling for Catholics to pray (but only for the month of October) St. Michael's prayer, the same prayer that was stripped from the Novus Ordo.

I also find it hilarious that the same duplicitous man who disparaged Catholics who had presented him with a rosary bouquet by saying, "An anecdote, just to illustrate this, it is not to laugh at it, I took it with respect, but it concerns me; when I was elected, I received a letter from one of these groups, and they said: "Your Holiness, we offer you this spiritual treasure: 3,525 rosaries." Why don't they say, 'we pray for you, we ask...', but this thing of counting... And these groups return to practices and to disciplines that I lived through - not you, because you are not old - to disciplines, to things that in that moment took place, but not now, they do not exist today..." is now asking Catholics to pray the rosary for him because he is being "attacked by the devil, the Great Accuser, Archbishop Vigano.

That is how much this post-conciliar man hates Catholic tradition and even the Faith.

What kind of Catholic Pope would be "concerned" about a rosary bouquet that was offered to him? And then turns around and asks for them when he's caught red-handed covering up for homosexuals?

41 posted on 10/10/2018 7:41:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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