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To: SoFloFreeper

The greatest of all Protestant heresies is presentism.

The idea that God would abandon His people for 1500 years (until the printing press was invented), so that the only (the Sole) means of ascertaining His will and HIs plan did not, in effect, exist - is absurd.

That’s not Christianity. If He would do that for 1500 years, why not 1800? If you’re a Protestant, why are you not a Mormon?


115 posted on 10/03/2018 7:53:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
If you’re a Protestant, why are you not a Mormon?

Rabid Romanists claim that Luther tossed out parts of the bible; while we Prots say that Rome added stuff into the bible that the Jews didn't even include.


If you’re a CATHOLIC, why are you not a Mormon?


  

Mormonism

  • claims itself to uniquely be "the Church"
  • claims a unique and authoritative priesthood, thereby denying the royal priesthood of all believers
  • adds to the Holy Bible (with the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price)
  • accepts multiple satanic visions as being from God
  • undermines the power of Jesus' blood by its view of personal suffering for the expiation of sins
  • sings praise songs about Joseph Smith, Jr.
  • has strange doctrines regarding marriage (polygamy accepted in early days)
  • believes in God the mother (who has conceived multitudes of spirit children)
  • claims the head of their group speaks infallibly at times
  • redefines "saint" to mean a living, breathing Mormon, instead of a bible-defined child of God
  • accepts and spreads "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8,9)- good works, water baptism and church membership
  • professes itself as Christian; Jesus as God, Savior, Lord and Son of God; Jesus' atoning death and resurrection
  • doctrines are sending millions to Hell and they need to be openly refuted with Scripture

Catholicism

  • claims itself to uniquely be "the Church"
  • claims a unique and authoritative priesthood, thereby denying the royal priesthood of all believers
  • adds to the Holy Bible (with sacred tradition)
  • accepts multiple apparitional visions as being from God's Mother
  • undermines the power of Jesus' blood by its view of personal suffering for the expiation of sins
  • sings praise songs about Mary
  • has strange doctrines regarding marriage (celibacy still practiced among its clergy)
  • believes in the mother of God (who is the sinless Queen of Heaven)
  • claims the head of their group speaks infallibly at times
  • redefines "saint" to mean a physically dead Catholic who was afterwards "canonized," instead of a bible-defined child of God
  • accepts and spreads "another gospel" (Gal. 1:8,9) - good works, the sacraments, Mary and church membership
  • professes itself as Christian; Jesus as God, Savior, Lord and Son of God; Jesus' atoning death and resurrection
  • doctrines are sending hundreds of millions to Hell and they need to be openly refuted with Scripture
  • teaches and practices bowing before and kissing statues
  • WORSHIPS the consecrated communion wafer as God
  • claims Mary is their life, sweetness, hope and most gracious advocate (as revealed in the Rosary)
  • claims Mary was raised bodily into Heaven
  • claims they get to Jesus by first going to Mary
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/catholicmormon.htm

117 posted on 10/03/2018 8:10:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jim Noble; SoFloFreeper; Elsie

“The idea that God would abandon His people for 1500 years”

Check out Israel and you will quickly see that your 1500 years idea is so flawed.

O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it: Why hast thou made me thus?
Or hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump, to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

I would suggest you start reading and studying the Bible starting in Genesis 1 and you will see that there are many examples that will prove your logic completely flawed.


118 posted on 10/03/2018 8:33:10 PM PDT by mrobisr
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To: Jim Noble

You say a lot of good stuff on this forum and you have my respect. Your comments here, though, misrepresent the Reformation.


162 posted on 10/04/2018 3:45:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jim Noble
The greatest of all Protestant heresies is presentism. The idea that God would abandon His people for 1500 years (until the printing press was invented), so that the only (the Sole) means of ascertaining His will and HIs plan did not, in effect, exist - is absurd. That’s not Christianity. If He would do that for 1500 years, why not 1800? If you’re a Protestant, why are you not a Mormon?

That's not "heresy", it's GOOFY! Nobody preaches that. Whoever said it to you is flat out wrong and has a good amount of anti-Protestant/any-Christian-who-isn't-a-Catholic bigotry, to boot!

167 posted on 10/04/2018 11:27:23 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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