Don’t be afraid. The intellectual contents of your posts haven’t reached my ankles yet.
It seems to me that you have a point you want to make and you aren’t interested at all in what I or anyone else might say.
I’d be interested if what you said had anything to do with the original point under discussion. The comment was made “That Catholics don’t know what Protestants believe," as if Protestant denominations were in agreement. Your posts indicate you want to talk about anything but.
I’ve stated that Catholics don’t know, because as demonstrated, Protestantism doesn’t have one set of beliefs/doctrines. Each denomination has their own set, some which conflict with other denominations’ beliefs.
But in response to that here are some of the things you went on about:
So, you’ve droned on about all that, which I did read, but it skirts what we are discussing: That Catholics don’t know what Protestants believe. And the reason I’ve given is because there is no one set of doctrine for all of the denominations. Not in the past, not because doctrine is developing, not because individuals sometimes don’t adhere to statements of faith, not because every individual doesn’t believe like the other, etc. It’s because many denominations have divergent sets of doctrine at the current time.
Tell me you at least understand the difference between major tenets of the Christian faith and what Scripture calls “disputable matters”?
We aren’t talking about major tenets, disputable matters, statements of faiths (which by the way generally don’t get into the details of the doctrine), etc. We are talking about differences in doctrine existing between denominations, whether major or not. For example, the doctrine of Predistination is pretty significant for some but not for others.
Why not just ASK???
Indeed. That is the whole point. Catholics (as well as some Protestants posting on here) don’t know what Protestants believe because there is not one set of doctrine that covers Protestantism. You have to ask each person what they adhere to if you want to understand where they’re coming from. That is if they will tell you. And if you ask, each of them says that their doctrine is based on Scripture, even if the doctrine conflict with the next guy who claims the same.
Good point!
According to current Roman Catholic teaching; is the following still valid today?
a yes or no will satisfy my curiosity.
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."
--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
Let me simplify this for you then. Catholicism claims to have a unified set of beliefs, right? Yet, on some "pretty significant" doctrines, the Orthodox church's set of beliefs conflict with Roman Catholicism's and they have been for over a thousand years. You don't seem concerned with that in your endeavor to criticize "Protestants". What I have been saying all along is that there IS agreement about the major tenets of the Christian faith among those churches that remain true to their founding statements of faith. I've not denied that there exists denominations who no longer adhere to them as well as those who are counted as being "Protestant" that have NEVER even claimed to hold to those tenets.
What many Catholic apologists are keen to do is to trash all non-Catholic churches based upon their supposed disunity on a myriad of doctrines whether they be major or minor ones and that is simply not accurate. My contention is that there IS agreement on the major tenets of the Christian faith (Nicean Creed, for example) among most "Protestant" churches. But, as has already been ceded, some individuals and errant denominations aren't in agreement on them. There remain churches outside of Roman Catholicism who DO hold formally to the doctrines that make up the Christian faith. That's the best I can do to answer your question.