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To: daniel1212
Actually that seems rather easy...

So, you are in agreement with this doctrine from Protestantism:


291 posted on 09/20/2018 10:47:06 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan
Baptism is no human trifle, but instituted by God Himself, moreover, that it is most solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we cannot be saved

Oh


 
The liturgical life of the Catholic Church revolves around the
Eucharistic sacrifice and the sacraments. There are seven
sacraments in the Church: Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist,
Penance, Anointing of the Sick, Matrimony, and Holy Orders.
 
The purpose of the sacraments is to make people holy, ...   
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The history of human salvation is the history of the way God came to men.
The first step on this way was the bridging of the gulf separating
God and man in the person of the one Mediator Jesus Christ and by his work of redemption.
 
(Yeah; there is more...  www.catholic.org/prayers/sacrament.php )
 
 
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The Church Thus Teaches: There are seven sacraments. They were instituted by Christ and given to the Church to administer. They are necessary for salvation.

300 posted on 09/21/2018 3:29:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan
Baptism is no human trifle, but instituted by God Himself, moreover, that it is most solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we cannot be saved

I'd like to read the Official position of the church as to why Jesus insisted on being baptized.

301 posted on 09/21/2018 3:29:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan
So, you are in agreement with this doctrine from Protestantism:

Baptism is no human trifle, but instituted by God Himself, moreover, that it is most solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we cannot be saved You are ignoring the point, which is not comprehensive doctrinal agreement , which has even been a goal not realized, nor without significant disagreement, which you have in Catholicism as well as Protestantism (though comparing one church with multitudes is invalid), but that of which group is most unified in core beliefs overall.

Which is far from being Catholicism, and the Scriptural basis for determination of what one believes is not mere official paper professions, but what one does and effects. (James 2:18; Mt. 7:20) In which Bible Christians actually show more unity, as well as having the strongest disagreements because they take doctrine seriously. Which is the same case with traditional Catholics, which are a small minority.

Roman Catholicism, the most extreme on the “right” are those who espouse the medieval Catholic position of implicit obedience to most everything the pope publicly teaches, but reject modern popes.

And then there are those who reject some of the modern Catholic teachings based upon their judgment of what valid church teaching consists of and means, and attack the present pope.

And then there are those who affirm that modern teaching is not in contradiction to historical Catholic teaching, which are clarifications of it, and are not be submitted and (at the least) not publicly objected to.

Then there are the very liberal members such as publicly reject even modern Catholic moral positions.

But all of whom (except the first class described) are manifestly considered, in life and in death, to be members in communion with “the Church.” Therefore unlike us, you must treat Ted Kennedy Catholics as brethren just as your church does. And you cannot leave your church without being a schismatic (who are damned according to historical RC teaching). And as regards other the significant differences in Catholicism, this includes the Eastern Orthodox vs. Rome..

Thus I could ask you a lot of questions (see next post).

As for,

Baptism is no human trifle, but instituted by God Himself, moreover, that it is most solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we cannot be saved

One must be of the faith that effects obedience to be saved.

307 posted on 09/21/2018 8:09:24 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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