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Why Every Christian, Not Just Catholics, Should Be Very Worried About The Catholic Sex Scandal
The Federalist ^ | 09/17/2018 | By Willis L. Krumholz and Robert Delahunty

Posted on 09/17/2018 11:01:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The rapidly unfolding crisis in the Roman Catholic Church is not a matter of concern to Catholics alone. Its true dimensions have yet to be measured, but we think it will prove to be a crisis on the scale of the Protestant Reformation, which began just over 500 years ago — an earthquake of 9.5 on the Richter scale. If so, resolution of the crisis will take decades to work through.

Resolution and absolution will require serious effort, and most likely require deep, structural reforms. Even if we are mistaken, the Catholic crisis is of such a magnitude that Christians of all denominations must take a serious interest in it.

We are both evangelical Christians with strong ties to the Catholic Church and deep respect for it. One of us was raised as a Catholic, was educated at Catholic primary and secondary schools, and has taught for the past 14 years at a Catholic law school; the other is a graduate of the law school and the business school of that Catholic university, and has many Catholic family members.

We also care deeply about our many Catholic friends, and the health of the Roman Catholic Church, which is an enormous force for good in this world. We also believe that what happens with the Catholic Church will affect Christianity worldwide. In other words, we have a stake in the matter.

Non-Catholics Should Pay Attention

Some Catholics may regard the crisis in their church as a purely internal matter, and consider outside commentary unwelcome and intrusive, even if it is well-meant. Likewise, many non-Catholic Christians may assume the Catholic crisis does not affect them at all, and perhaps even find in that crisis confirmation for their darkest views of Catholicism.

We do not accept that position. Non-Catholic Christians should take an active part in the conversation about the Catholic crisis. While they must be unfailingly tactful and sympathetic, they should also be as critical as is necessary given what is at stake. The well-known writer Rod Dreher, formerly a Catholic and now Eastern Orthodox, has posted frequently on the Catholic crisis, and is a magnificent model for other non-Catholic Christians to follow.

Among many reasons for non-Catholic interventions, three stand out in our minds.

1. The Victims

First, every Christian has a compelling obligation to protect the weak and vulnerable to the greatest extent possible. The victims of clerical sex abuse in the Catholic Church (as elsewhere) have often been children. While many victims have been compensated — if “compensation” for such injuries is really possible — and the Catholic Church in many places has instituted practices to guard against future abuse, it remains necessary to speak on behalf of those who have been victimized and those who may still be at risk.

All Christians, especially Catholics, should be angry. It is unbearable to think of what has been done “to the least of these” by those claiming to speak in the name of Christ. Many of the children targeted and abused came from broken and dysfunctional homes. Many are fatherless.

The church is charged with mending the emptiness that a broken family brings, not violently shattering a child’s world. God is the father to the fatherless. What would Christ, who overturned tables at the temple and chased out the moneychangers with a whip, do to those who sexually molest his children?

Far too many in the church hierarchy, including the pope, are not sufficiently angry. For example, this coming January, Cardinal Barbarin, the archbishop of Lyons in France, will be standing trial for allegedly covering up the crimes of a local priest who, in the 1980s, sexually abused Boy Scouts. A local priest has gathered more than 100,000 signatures to petition the pope to remove this cardinal.

Thus far, however, Pope Francis seems not to have responded to that petition. However, in 2016, despite knowing of the allegations against the cardinal, and apparently without meeting or hearing the victims of the priest’s abuse, Pope Francis praised Barbarin as “brave.” He also has not ordered a canonical proceeding against him.

We are not prejudging Barbarin’s guilt or innocence: that depends on the outcome of his case in January. But we think it is fair to say that Pope Francis’ handling of the affair indicates that he is — at best — over-eager to defend his hierarchy and insufficiently attentive to those who have suffered at their hands.

The pope is not the only member of the Catholic hierarchy who seems simply unable to register the severity of the injuries they cause to their victims, and others at risk from them. Recently, on a visit to a seminary, Chicago Cardinal Blase Cupich, a Francis appointee, answered one anguished young candidate for the priesthood by saying, “While the church’s ‘agenda’ certainly involves protecting kids from harm, ‘we have a bigger agenda than to be distracted by all of this.’” His audience was reportedly dumbfounded: Surely the problem of sexual abuse of seminaries and children is more than a “distraction?”

In a similar vein, Cardinal Oscar Maradiaga of Honduras has excoriated a group of 50 Honduran seminarians for petitioning the Vatican to correct homosexual abuses going on in their seminary. We apparently are to believe that 50 seminaries are spreading malicious lies, while Madariaga, whose top aide resigned last July in the wake of charges of sexual and financial misconduct, is only speaking the truth.

Moreover, the victims of clerical abuse and the hierarchical concealment of them are not limited to those who have personally suffered sexual affronts. The financial costs to the Catholic Church of litigating and settling abuse cases have been staggering, and are now likely to escalate much higher. In 2015, the National Catholic Reporter found that the church had incurred $4 billion since 1950 in costs related to clerical sex abuse.

Research has also found that the church lost about $2.3 billion annually over the last 30 years due to scandal-related consequences, in the form of lost membership, and diverted giving. Specifically, there is a notable drop in giving in areas rocked by abuse. This makes sense. Why should good people give to pay for bad things?

Abuse litigation in the Los Angeles Archdiocese alone cost $740 million. Yet the former archbishop of Los Angeles, Cardinal Roger Mahony, under whose tenure (1985-2011) there were 500 alleged victims, is still considered a “priest in good standing” and has not been demoted by the pope.

These amounts will likely rise significantly in the wake of the recent report by a Pennsylvania grand jury detailing abuse in most (but not all) of that state’s Catholic dioceses, the overwhelming likelihood that similar investigations will occur in other states, and the risk that statutes of limitations will be amended to expose the Catholic Church to greater liability.

That means the American Catholic Church has had, and will have, far fewer resources to help the poor, to care for the sick, to shelter the homeless, and to educate children. These are victims too.

2. Concern for Fellow Christians

Second, even if you happen not to be a Catholic, surely you have Catholic family members, spouses, close friends, or colleagues who are Catholics. Almost half of the U.S. population has a “strong” connection to the Catholic Church. We have often found the Catholics closest to us to be dismayed by the situation in their church — angry, stunned, confused, or even in denial. Fellow Christians should share their agony.

The other Christian churches should want a healthy, robust Catholic Church, not the gravely weakened one of the present. American Catholicism was losing members alarmingly even before the current phase of the Catholic crisis. It is said that the second largest American denomination, after the Catholic Church, is ex-Catholics.

Not all of that decline is due to the clerical scandals; the general re-paganization of American society has surely played its part. But it seems likely that many former Catholics have abandoned their church (or at least are boycotting it) because of the scandals. The abuse scandals may also be playing a role in this re-paganization — after all, abuse of young boys was a pagan practice that early Christianity condemned and sought to stamp out.

In light of all this, non-Catholic Christians may be increasingly tempted to view Catholicism as a kind of pariah church within global Christianity. But that would not only be uncharitable; it would be unwise. To a great extent, the reputation of the Christian faith itself is besmirched when a large Christian denomination is engulfed in continuing scandals.

3. The Risk to Religious Liberty

When a large corporate body proves unable to govern itself, the chances are high that the government will step in. We saw this when financial institutions considered “too big to fail” were either shuttered by the government or subjected to deeply intrusive government regulation. The Catholic Church is heading towards the same predicament. Unless it can prove, very rapidly, that it is capable of managing its own affairs, it will come under increasing governmental scrutiny and control. Thereby it will pose a danger to the religious liberties of us all.

Already, the American Catholic Church is under the regulatory microscope. We’ve mentioned the stunning grand jury report from Pennsylvania. Attorneys general in five other states — Illinois, New York, Nebraska, New Mexico, Missouri, and now Kentucky — have been quick to take the cue.

These investigations may well reveal problems as deep, intractable, and serious as those discovered in Pennsylvania. That is, the systematic abuse of children was known to be occurring, and no one did anything about it.

Federal and state courts have already been involved, e.g., in diocesan bankruptcy cases. They are now likely to be trying larger numbers of criminal cases related to the abuse scandals, including some against ranking Catholic prelates. There is even a possibility that the Department of Justice may launch an anti-racketeering suit against the American Catholic Church.

Yes, there is a sturdy tradition of religious liberty in this country, and it enjoys constitutional protection in the First Amendment. But in the past several years, that tradition has been weakening, and government has asserted broader power to control decisions that churches once considered their own.

The Obama administration’s “contraception mandate” is a case in point. Given that growing numbers of Americans have severed their affiliations to any religion or church, the public (and the courts) may grow increasingly indifferent to arguments of behalf of religious liberty, and come to regard governmental regulation of all churches with greater acceptance. These trends will be aggravated if the largest American denomination seems scandal-ridden and unable to right itself. That makes the problems of the Catholic Church a matter of the highest concern for us all.

Gazing Into the Abyss

It is absolutely essential that Catholics grasp the depth of this crisis. As we have said, we think it will become as severe and as comprehensive as the crisis of the Protestant Reformation 500 years ago. With remarkable swiftness, Catholicism simply collapsed in what had been Catholic strongholds — most of Germany, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Switzerland, England, Scotland, and very nearly France. In recent decades, Catholicism has likewise lost its grip in what had been bastions — like French Canada, Spain, Ireland, and Brazil.

Forty years ago, virtually the entire population of southern Ireland turned out to welcome Pope John Paul II. A few weeks ago, the Irish population essentially shunned the visiting Pope Francis, and the Irish prime minister gave him a stern lecture on his church’s reduced place in that country. What would St. Patrick, who, despite just escaping from slavery in pagan Ireland, returned to the island after hearing the screams of the damned in his dreams, think of the church today?

As goes Ireland, so will go the rest of Roman Catholic Christendom. The church in Germany has been rocked by scandal and there are thousands of known-victims. Already, the hierarchy of the Catholic Church is under judgment in Chile, the United States, Australia, France, and Honduras. The crisis has long since gone global.

In fact, as the Catholic scholar Benjamin Wiker has argued, the current crisis is more threatening for the Catholic Church than the Protestant Reformation 500 years ago. For one thing, the Reformation began in a society that was still overwhelmingly Christian. Some historians of the pre-Reformation period even argue that Christian piety was deepening and broadening in the run-up to the Reformation, and that the Christian laity was already assuming a more prominent role in managing church affairs (a development greatly accelerated by Lutherans and Calvinists). But the contemporary Western world seems rapidly to be losing whatever residual Christianity was left in it. That makes a Catholic recovery more problematic.

Second, the internet spreads news of the Catholic crisis within seconds into every house. Everyone knows everything. Pope Francis, who seems to prefer talking about plastics in our oceans over the systemic problem of child abuse, may count on a friendly and collaborative media to ignore or downplay the charges Archbishop Vigano recently brought personally against him. But even if information leaks out drip by drip, the Catholic hierarchy and the Vatican can no longer safely rely on secrecy and on silence to cover their misdeeds.

Just as the printing press was a major force in the spread of the Reformation in Martin Luther’s Germany, so internet journalism (and, who knows, even the mainstream media when the pope is no longer useful to their agenda) will sooner or later force the disclosure of the facts. So it will not do for Catholics simply to say, “We have been through this before. We will make it through again.” In the end, that belief may be vindicated. We sincerely hope it is. But in the meanwhile, they must be energetically fashioning responses that are truly commensurate to this crisis.

Willis L. Krumholz lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He is a JD/MBA graduate from the University of St. Thomas, and works in the financial services industry. Robert J. Delahunty is a professor of law at the University of St Thomas and has taught Constitutional Law there for a decade.


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholics; catholicsexscandal; popesexscandal; sexscandal; sexualabuse
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Judith Ann


41 posted on 09/17/2018 1:47:21 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BillyBoy
One thing I love about the Catholic Faith, is that our doctrines can pretty reliably be found at the Catechism of the Catholic Church which is instantly open to anyone with Internet access, searchable by keyword, and (in my opinion) rather beautifully written.

On the basis of that, if a person's reading comprehension is within the "adequate" range, it's quickly plain what's Catholicism vs what's sump'n else.

I can even detect when the Pope is into "sump'n else." That's what's made it --- for the past 5 years at least --- so easy to refute heresies like, er... papolatry.

:o/

Lord have mercy 40x.

42 posted on 09/17/2018 1:50:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Every one of you who was baptized into Christ, has put on Christ." - Galatians 3:27)
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To: RegulatorCountry; BillyBoy
Searched Judith Ann by username:

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Your query returned no results.

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43 posted on 09/17/2018 1:52:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Every one of you who was baptized into Christ, has put on Christ." - Galatians 3:27)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Beg pardon. Judith Anne.


44 posted on 09/17/2018 1:54:02 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind
We are both evangelical Christians with strong ties to the Catholic Church and deep respect for it.

I would have loved to have heard Martin Luther or John Calvin's comments to such a statement.

45 posted on 09/17/2018 2:02:27 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“That’s a very naive statement, since the theologies of the evangelical and liturgical churches have absolutely nothing in common... Their doctrines are completely contradictory to each other. They can’t all be true. To pretend that Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Nestorians, high church Anglicans, and low church Fundamentalist Protestants all share the same religion is simply nonsense on the face of it.”

First, I believe it is important to be respectful to others as much as is possible. I have many times in the past by being too harsh with those who hold different views, and that is something I am trying to correct and find a balance on. I feel that to accept the profession of faith by others at face value is not an ecumenical compromise. The few cases where the term “Christian” is used in the Bible refer to a derisive term that unbelievers gave the early followers of Christ. If someone calls themselves “Christian,” I can generally accept that label without feeling the need to know with absolute certainty if they are born again. The degree of confidence we have in our own salvation and that of those we know will be a determining factor in the degree to which we are able to build a close bond of friendship.

So, for example, I certainly feel at ease cooperating with various “Christians” who want to work together to promote a conservative candidate or a cause like the pro-life movement. But I might want to know a little more about the doctrine and testimony of a person who would like to meet up for Bible study. And in the case of forming a business partnership or entering into marriage, the Bible clearly says not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. This underscores the necessity to evaluate if someone else is a genuine believer. But first and foremost we need to examine ourselves in this regard. That’s also a Biblical command.

I have frequent discussions about the Bible and Christ with people from denominations that teach and practice error. It does grieve me when believers remain in churches where the truth is not being taught. But the criteria for salvation is not attending the right church. Certainly, when a professing Christian continues to participate in false religion, whether doctrinally or in practice, this is very troubling. And it even begs the question of the sincerity of the profession of faith. But I still hold to that salvation is NOT contingent upon church membership. And true believers can be deceived doctrinally. Ultimately it will be Christ who judges who is truly His. In some cases I think people come to Christ in spite of the church they attend rather than because of it.

Make no mistake. I’m not minimizing the danger of false doctrine or religious practices. I’m simply observing the reality that churches that preach the true message of the Gospel and basic Bible doctrine still contain members or regular attendees who have never believed the Gospel message for salvation. In fact, this must be the case because we are not automatically born again just because our parents are. So, those who grow up in Bible-teaching churches still need the salvation experience.

Likewise, a person could be in an entirely false church and be a born-again believer. A child might have believed the Gospel due to hearing it from another child at school or in the neighborhood. But that child might attend a false church that denies the deity of Christ. A person might be converted in a church where even the leaders are not born again, but the reading of scripture and other content such as the songs contain enough of the message of salvation that they believe.

My opinion is that God will lead those who truly belong to Him away from false doctrine and religious practices to have fellowship with other believers and be under the sound teaching of the word.


46 posted on 09/17/2018 2:08:14 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Judith Anne: Last post:

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I read through the first page of her comments and saw she was involved in plenty of snippy volleying back and forth, but didn't see that she said anything that you accused her of. It's possible she did even farther back than that, but I don't have to time to do the whole archive on somebody who's apparently not here anymore.

The Mrs Don-o Inquisition TM will cheerfully look at any others you want to drop a dime on.

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47 posted on 09/17/2018 2:08:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Every one of you who was baptized into Christ, has put on Christ." - Galatians 3:27)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>> One thing I love about the Catholic Faith, is that our doctrines can pretty reliably be found at the Catechism of the Catholic Church which is instantly open to anyone with Internet access, searchable by keyword, and (in my opinion) rather beautifully written. On the basis of that, if a person's reading comprehension is within the "adequate" range, it's quickly plain what's Catholicism vs what's sump'n else. <<

That's true, most of the Catholic bashers have zero interest in reading the ACTUAL statements of what the Catholic Church believes, and why. They'd rather just tear down Catholicism on the basis of what they've "seen" Catholics do, like "I've SEEN The Catholics worship the Virgin Mary as a goddess".

It would be like me trying to trash protestantism based not on the actual doctrines of their founders and leaders, but o n what I've SEEN protestants do in public. "The protestants believe giving money to a minister on television will get you saved! I know, I've SEEN 'em do it! Their churches all teach that making TV ministers rich equals salvation for their members!"

48 posted on 09/17/2018 2:09:35 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Please do.


49 posted on 09/17/2018 2:10:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, ostensibly the Catholic church acknowledges that, however it seems like a powerful cabal in the clergy does not agree.

Just like the “deep state” that wields so much power in our government, it looks like the “deep church” has its own agenda that it doesn’t feel the need to run past the general membership for approval.


50 posted on 09/17/2018 2:12:54 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: RegulatorCountry
OK.

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NEXT!


51 posted on 09/17/2018 2:15:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I'm making a list... Checking it twice... Gonna find out who's naughty or nice....)
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To: karnage

Seamus O’Hanrahan :P


52 posted on 09/17/2018 2:16:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Another interesting observation...

Both you and I are EAGER to find any wayward Catholics who “believe protestants are not Christians” are correct them for their theological errors.

The reverse is not true. I’m not seeing any “Evangelicals” on here who say “Yikes, some of my fellow protestants are DENYING that Catholics are Christians? They are obviously WRONG. Please introduce me to them and I will explain to them how the Catholic faith is certainly part of Christendom”


53 posted on 09/17/2018 2:32:37 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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I see a "brothers and sisters in Christ" POV expressed by Protestant people-of-good-will from time to time. I always welcome this, as I think it's God-pleasing and also because it's more mutually enriching to play catch with the non-biting breeds.

That goes for non-biting Catholics too.

I suspect that maybe some don't hang out in the Religion Forum very much because it has the reputation of being a sado-ecumenical no-go zone. Genial believers and non-believers who peek in from time to time are probably scared right out of the neighborhood.

54 posted on 09/17/2018 2:48:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I'm making a list... Checking it twice... Gonna find out who's naughty or nice....)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; unlearner
>> I see a "brothers and sisters in Christ" POV expressed by Protestant people-of-good-will from time to time. I always welcome this, as I think it's God-pleasing and also because it's more mutually enriching to play catch with the non-biting breeds. <<

Most of them (both "mainline" and "evangelical" protestants) seem to be pretty welcoming of non-protestant Christianity and just see Catholics as "fellow Christians with some weird beliefs". I only think maybe 5% of them are the "Catholics ain't Christian and the Catholic faith is a false man-made cult" type mindset.

The problem is that quite a few "Evangelical leaders" DO express that viewpoint, and seem to make it their mission to "turn away Catholics from the error of the Catholic Church" and get us to join some fundamentalist protestant church where we can be "born again" and "saved", cuz otherwise, we're goin' to hell. They think they're saving souls.

I supposed their sincerity is admirable, but I find their tactics to be appalling. The biggest challenge to evangelicalism in Catholicism is getting people who were already raised Catholic but have fallen away to be re-evangelized, not to convince other Christians their church is scum and get them to leave it and join the Catholic Church.

The current crisis will just make low-information Catholics easy picking, unfortunately.

Finally, I think a valid point can be made that these anti-Catholic bigots can get away with preaching ANYTHING they want about the evils of Catholicism in public, but the reverse is not true. If a Catholic minister targeted any protestant church for criticism the way they bash Catholicism (for example, if some famous Catholic priest started quipping that the Methodist Church is satanic and a great lie and that all their members are damned), that would quickly be the end of his career.

55 posted on 09/17/2018 3:16:44 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: BillyBoy; Alex Murphy; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Dutchboy88; ealgeone; Elsie; Gamecock; ...
I don’t recall seeing a single post from a protestant FReeper during Pope Benedict’s reign saying they liked or admired or respected him, even when he said stuff they agreed with or promoted conservative values. Mostly they mocked how old he was and called him “NAZI Pope” because he had been forced to join Hitler Youth as a child.

But now tons of them retroactively claim he was a good Christian leader.

Which tons of FR Prots mocked his age and called him the NAZI pope?

Could you provide the links please?

And just where are the tons of FR prots now saying he was a good Christian leader?

Could you provide those links as well?

56 posted on 09/17/2018 3:35:10 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Popman; RegulatorCountry
I can’t tell you how many times I was accused of being a heretic and destined to everlasting hell because I didn’t bow down to Rome...sort of become humorous..

Same here.

57 posted on 09/17/2018 3:37:26 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: BillyBoy; Mrs. Don-o
Both you and I are EAGER to find any wayward Catholics who “believe protestants are not Christians” are correct them for their theological errors.

You're gonna have to correct a great number of your denomination's writings and a number of your fellow Roman Catholic posters.

The reverse is not true. I’m not seeing any “Evangelicals” on here who say “Yikes, some of my fellow protestants are DENYING that Catholics are Christians?

Roman Catholicism is not New Testament Christianity for a whole host of reasons.

Can some Roman Catholics be true born again believer? Possibly.

However, much of Rome's theology has departed from the Gospel and has become another gospel warned about by Paul.

58 posted on 09/17/2018 3:41:03 PM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; RegulatorCountry

This whole discussion has become another great example of goalpost moving.

Catholics regularly tell non-Catholics they are going to hell since they are heretics and have ex-=communicated themselves, which effectively damns them according to Catholic teaching.

Matter of fact, Catholic think it’s presumptuous for ANYONE to claim they are going to heaven.

Besides that point, Catholic teaching itself is replete with condemnation for people who don’t submit to Rome.

So finding a post where Catholics telling others they are not Christian might be tough, but they do tell them they are not saved cause they are not Catholic and don’t eat Jesus.


59 posted on 09/17/2018 3:42:40 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: BillyBoy
To guys like Ray Comfort and his ilk, millions of people who sincerely believe in the Holy Trinity are no different than Buddhists.

Believing in the Trinity does not equate to salvation.

Even the demons believe i n God and tremble, but cannot be and are not saved.

So sincerely believing in the Holy Trinity is not what saves someone.

60 posted on 09/17/2018 3:45:15 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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