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To: aMorePerfectUnion

None of the things you say Catholics do are found in the real world, they exist only in your mind. I should know, I have been a Catholic for over 50 years, and I have known many Catholics and none of them have ever practiced any type of idolatry. You can make all kind of strange arguments based on similitudes about Catholic practices, like veneration of relics, icons, images, statues, and the like, but none of that is done as a form of idolatry; we know what we are doing, we know the difference between Creator and creature, we know the level of honor we give a saint or the Blessed Virgin Mary, and we know the honor we give to God.

Spinning your silly caricatures of what you think Catholicism is not very enlightening for anyone, precisely because you have never experienced the gifts and graces that flow from the One and only Church that Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior founded.

It is sad because there is so little time we have on this earth to love God and neighbor and to grow in holiness and grace. If we do not become perfect in charity now, we will have to accomplish it later.

Idolatry is a very serious sin with very serious consequences. You trivialize it by your wild claims against the Bride of Christ. Look at the fruits of Catholicism, what are they? I would think that if super duper bad bad idolatry is found within her than one would see really really bad results?

Now take a real idolatry, like rock-n-roll music. It urges christians to abandon the moral law, to be ruled by their passions, and to engage in any and all forms of sexual license. It also ridicules the divine law/true religion. It puts self-love at the apex and pinnacle of human experience. The results? Lets see, abortion, which is nothing other than the most prolific example of human sacrifice in human history, STD’s, contraception, same sex attraction, sodomy, all forms of sexual deviancy, drug use, demonic possession, do you see the difference here between your supposed idolatry and real idolatry?

Maybe if you focused on eradicating real idolatry your efforts would benefit mankind and have a positive impact on the salvation of souls?


33 posted on 09/20/2018 9:08:58 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: blackpacific

“None of the things you say Catholics do are found in the real world, they exist only in your mind. I should know, I have been a Catholic for over 50 years, and I have known many Catholics and none of them have ever practiced any type of idolatry.”

Let’s be clear that you do not know the heart of every Roman. Your statement claims you do.

Bowing before statues and pictures is idolatry. Roman Catholics do this.

Turning Mary and other saints into demigods is idolatry.

“Idolatry is a very serious sin with very serious consequences. You trivialize it by your wild claims against the Bride of Christ. Look at the fruits of Catholicism, what are they? I would think that if super duper bad bad idolatry is found within her than one would see really really bad results?

Have you paid attention to your priesthood?
Have you paid attention to your leaders?
Have you read about the gay infestation in the Vatican??

So yes. Idolatry in Catholicism has resulted in an immoral church.

“Now take a real idolatry, like rock-n-roll music. It urges christians to abandon the moral law, to be ruled by their passions, and to engage in any and all forms of sexual license. It also ridicules the divine law/true religion

Rich and roll can’t hold a candle to:

Perverting the Gospel of Grace, that is the only path to salvation
Slaughtering believers because they disagree
Buggering boys
Gay sex and drug parties in the Vatican.
And so much more.

Man! Are you paying attention??


34 posted on 09/21/2018 5:01:50 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: blackpacific; aMorePerfectUnion
Exodus 20:4-6 Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them: I am the Lord thy God, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me: And shewing mercy unto thousands to them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Making an image of Mary, putting it in a *church* and bowing down before it and lighting candles to it and praying to it violates the second commandment.

No need to even get into the semantic hairsplitting of making up separate words to describe what Catholic do with Mary to excuse it as not being worship.

The bowing down can be clearly and objectively seen. No need to worry about mind reading.

Making an image and bowing before it is sin according to God.

59 posted on 10/10/2018 12:33:10 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: blackpacific
Spinning your silly caricatures of what you think Catholicism is not very enlightening for anyone, precisely because you have never experienced the gifts and graces that flow from the One and only Church that Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior founded.


 

Litanies of Our Lady of Mount Carmel

 

BEFORE EACH OF THE FOLLOWING SALUTATIONS SAY:
"Our Lady of Mount Carmel,"
AND AFTERWARDS: "Pray for us Sinners."

Queen of Heaven,
Victorious over Satan,
Most Obedient Daughter,
Most Pure Virgin,
Devoted Spouse,
Mother Most Tender,
Model of Perfect Virtue,
Sure Anchor of Hope,
Refuge in Sorrow,
Dispensatrix of the Gifts of God,
Bastion Against Our Enemies,
Our Aid in Danger,
The Way Leading to Jesus,
Our Light in Darkness,
Our Consolation at the Hour of Death,
Advocate of the Most Abandoned Sinners,
For the Hardened in Vice,
For Those who Offend Thy Divine Son,
For Those Who Neglect to Pray,
For Those Who are in Agony,
For Those Who Defer Their Conversion,
For Those Suffering in Purgatory,
For Those Who Do Not Know Thee.
 
Let Us Pray.

  

Our Lady of Mount Carmel, glorious Queen of Angels, channel of God's tenderest mercy to man,
refuge and advocate of sinners, with confidence I prostrate myself before thee, beseeching thee to obtain for me [Mention request silently].
In return I solemnly promise to have recourse to thee in all my trials, sufferings and temptations,
and I shall do all in my power to induce others to love and reverence thee and to invoke thee in all their needs.
I thank thee for the numberless blessings which I have received from thy mercy and powerful intercession.
Continue to be my shield in danger, my guide in life, and my consolation at the hour of death.
 
Amen.
 


Caricature doesn't BEGIN to describe...



83 posted on 10/11/2018 6:39:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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