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Satan is attacking bishops; they must fight with prayer, pope says
NATIONAL CATHOLIC REPORTER ^ | 09/11/18 | Carol Glatz,

Posted on 09/11/2018 1:18:32 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper

In these times, Pope Francis said, it seems like the devil, "the great accuser, has been let loose and he's got it in for the bishops. True, there are, we are all sinners, we bishops."

The great accuser "seeks to reveal sins, which people can see, in order to scandalize the people" of God, he said in his homily during morning Mass at Domus Sanctae Marthae.

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To: Mom MD
Besides, what you call the "Roman sect" is not a sect. It is the church cata-holos: Catholic, as a whole.
81 posted on 09/11/2018 4:49:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("This is a profound mystery -- but I am talking about Christ and the church." - Eph 5:32)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Roman sect is just that. The whole Church is made up of the body of believers that have washed their robes in the Blood of Christ. Some from the Roman sect belong to the Church others do not. And despite what you think you are not sole proprietors of the sacrements. I receive communion on a regular basis well outside of Rome.


82 posted on 09/11/2018 4:54:17 PM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

But men eventually marry. Clergy don’t. Homosexuals never do. Seems clergy and homosexuals are more aligned within their lifestyles than married men.

Clergy should marry. It was a man-made decision for them not to, and it violates the tenants of the Bible.


83 posted on 09/11/2018 4:56:37 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!)
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To: sodpoodle
"It is apparent that many priests and bishops are a bunch of guys who like to dress up in fancy robes, jewelry and tiaras . . . "

You're on to something. This isn't just the Catholic Church, but also the Anglican Church and a number of small offshoots where everybody's a bishop and everybody gets to dress up in frilly clothes and everybody is a homosexual. I seriously think that the clothes have a lot to do with it.
84 posted on 09/11/2018 4:57:02 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: PGR88
Pope is just mimicking protties “Grace” loopholes. As long as you believe, you can sin at will with a clear conscience. State authorities can get you, but Christ won't, so what is the Spiritual big deal anyway. You are covered.
85 posted on 09/11/2018 5:00:06 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

“The Devil made us do it.” Pope Francis is so full of s**t that it is coming out his ears. This guy may get to stay in office but I predict in a year or two, the Vatican is going to be so short of funds Francis will have to start selling off treasures from the Vatican Museum.

All I know it that I will continue to attend my traditional Catholic parish and support it with my contributions but I will not give any funds to either the Vatican or my local Bishop who seems to spend the majority of his time in support of illegal immigrants.


86 posted on 09/11/2018 5:03:10 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: Mrs. Don-o

In my opinion Christ was not talking about the RCC.

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87 posted on 09/11/2018 5:10:18 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Mom MD

Did you flee and abandon the USA when the wicked, evil, disgraceful Barack Obama was temporarily in charge of the highest office in the land?

88 posted on 09/11/2018 5:10:55 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Steve_Seattle





Speaking of faggots...



At least the Pope wasn't on meth (Not sure about some Bishops though)
89 posted on 09/11/2018 5:19:07 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Lurker

Well, He was not “NOT talking” about the RCC ... :oD


90 posted on 09/11/2018 6:00:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("This is a profound mystery -- but I am talking about Christ and the church." - Eph 5:32)
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To: CodeToad
"The tenants of the Bible"

You mean like, people who actually live there?

I'm sorry, I'm just funnin' with you. Although I never make tyspos i mean tpyosp I mean--- heck, you know what I mean.

In my humble opinion, most people should spend most of their adult lives married. It's always been so, and I think it's for the best. There's just only two ways to live decent, sexually: (1) well-and-truly married or (2) well-and-truly single; and if you're living right you're going to be one or the other, not messing around somewhere in between.

Most men eventually marry, but some don't. The Catholic Church just in the USA has more married clergy (15,000) than we have unmarried priests in religious orders (14,000) --- the former refers to ordained permanent deacons (mostly) and the latter refers to men in orders like Franciscans, Jesuits, Dominicans, Benedictines, Maryknoll Fathers and so forth.

Our secular (diocesan) priests are all unmarried, except for the priests of the Eastern Churches, who are not very numerous in the USA but are more numerous in some other countries. Lebanon, I'm thinking, and the Ukraine.

Anyway, men who want to serve as Catholic clergy have these options, and I'm all for that.

I don't think a man should be pushed either way, if it's not his choice or he is pretty sure he's not called to it as a vocation. That's why I'm glad we have both choices.

So, what's the problem? You wouldn't want a man to be pushed into marrying because it's expected of him, if he actually has a calling to be celibate, would you?

I was just thinking about that. What would you say?

Things are much tougher if you're a same-sex-attracted man, because guys like that find it difficult to relate normally to males OR females.

A guy like that shouldn't be a seminary or a monastery or any other all-male environment, because there are too many temptations; he can't get married to a man; probably too stressful to be married to a woman; if he's a loner, fine, but if he's a person who doesn't do well living alone, it's going to be a tough life.

I've been asked from time to time what I think gay guys should do, but I don't really know what to say about that. Probably need to live single but have a spiritually-supportive group of friends that will help them not die piecemeal of a kind of emotional anemia.

People can live without sex but it's unreasonable, crazy, to think of living without love.

I realize I'm rambling here. It's almost bedtime. Your thoughts?

91 posted on 09/11/2018 6:40:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("This is a profound mystery -- but I am talking about Christ and the church." - Eph 5:32)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If a church leader is sinning, they must be rebuked publicly - 1 Tim 5.


92 posted on 09/11/2018 6:48:00 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: winoneforthegipper

The “smoke of Satan” came into the Church a long time agom


93 posted on 09/11/2018 6:53:03 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

Correction: ago.


94 posted on 09/11/2018 6:55:31 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“The Catholic Church just in the USA has more married clergy “

Great start. Now, simply remove any conditions about marriage. Marriage should be natural and not contrived.

Yes, they should also live in the Bible! :)


95 posted on 09/11/2018 6:56:21 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

And my parents can’t understand why I left the Catholic Church. Sheez.


96 posted on 09/11/2018 6:58:11 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Mom MD
I never said a person has to be ROMAN Catholic.

But it's too late at night to get into ecclesiology here (nearly 10 pm) and besides, ecclesiology is not my forte.

Let me just say the church cata-holos should never have been divided, splintered, split, fictionalize, denominationalized, or torn to pieces, because that is, I think, tearing apart the Body of Christ.

It is not His will, and never has been His will. He did say He wants there to be one flock, one shepherd.

I don't think it's fidelity to leave when things go bizarrely, incomprehensibly wrong, and things were never more bizarrely wrong than when the Apostles were variously hanging themselves, denying Christ to the servant girls, or hiding in the tall grass. If that were the right thing to do, the Church would have died out somewhere between the Cross and Easter.

97 posted on 09/11/2018 7:04:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("This is a profound mystery -- but I am talking about Christ and the church." - Eph 5:32)
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To: CodeToad
Ha! Nice point.

May get back into this in the morning. I'm getting a beer and a melatonin. G'night, Code Toad.

98 posted on 09/11/2018 7:05:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("This is a profound mystery -- but I am talking about Christ and the church." - Eph 5:32)
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To: winoneforthegipper

So, the devil made them do it? Flip Wilson, please pick up the courtesy phone!


99 posted on 09/11/2018 7:28:32 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Honestly I don’t know how much more of this I can take.”

This pope is a disaster. What bothers me more is that the same college of cardinals who elected Benedict then turned around and elected this wacko. That was the final nail in the coffin for me. I’m a Presbyterian now and glad to have become one the last few weeks.


100 posted on 09/11/2018 7:30:18 PM PDT by jocon307
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