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You’ve Seen One Elohim, You’ve Seen Them All? A Critique of Mormonism’s Use of Psalm 82
Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship ^ | 2007 | Michael S. Heiser

Posted on 09/05/2018 10:41:16 AM PDT by fishtank

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To: ealgeone
There are some of another denomination on these threads who say we cannot critique Mormonism because we are not Mormons....rather we should just ask them what they believe and allow them to tell us.

I reject that line of thinking.


Likewise...

There are some of another RACE in America who say that I cannot say the N-word because I am not a N.

21 posted on 09/05/2018 6:09:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

God used Greek and Aramaic as well.


22 posted on 09/05/2018 7:08:20 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

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No, he only used Hebrew to the Hebrew people.

The Greek translations of NT writings are corrupted from the words that Yehova gave his apostles. Those corruptions are what created the “inherited lies wherein there is no profit” spoken of by Jeremiah.

The 4th chapter of Daniel was given to another people.


23 posted on 09/05/2018 9:08:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie

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We’ve had this exchange before, and we both know what will come of it.


24 posted on 09/05/2018 9:12:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; Elsie

I have not herd that before either. Mind telling me where in Romans Paul tells us “Hebrew is the only language in which Yehova has communicated with man. (Paul told us this in his epistle to the Romans)”


25 posted on 09/05/2018 10:11:21 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: editor-surveyor

If you deny that the NT is theopneustos, then you deny God Himself.

See here for some of the better scholarship on the canon:

https://www.michaeljkruger.com/


26 posted on 09/06/2018 4:35:39 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: editor-surveyor

WE have; but I’ll just bet some OTHER folks might like to know to what you are referring.


27 posted on 09/06/2018 5:14:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, he only used Hebrew to the Hebrew people.

Oh???

 

Acts 2 New International Version (NIV)

1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken.

 

28 posted on 09/06/2018 5:23:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Your lack of understanding of the word is at times amazing to me.

The entire crowd assembled there at the temple were devout, believing Hebrew people there to celebrate Shavuot (AKA “Pentecost”)

Is that not your understanding too?

It was one of the commanded feasts that drew huge crowds.

29 posted on 09/06/2018 9:39:43 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: fishtank
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The “NT” is the words recorded by the disciples and apostles in their native Hebrew language.

The Greek translations thereof are partly representative of the original words, but not completely so.

If you adhere to the Greek translations, you are denying important portions of the true words where the Greek translations are confusion.

30 posted on 09/06/2018 9:45:51 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: fishtank

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The “NT” is the words recorded by the disciples and apostles in their native Hebrew language.

The Greek translations thereof are partly representative of the original words, but not completely so.

If you adhear to the Greek translations, you are denying important portions of the true words where the Greek translations are confusion.


31 posted on 09/06/2018 9:46:36 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: the_daug
Romans 3:1,2

What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

32 posted on 09/06/2018 9:53:16 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: fishtank

The Aramaic words of Nebuchadnezzer recorded in Daniel 4 were delivered to the kingdom of Nebuchadnezzar.


33 posted on 09/06/2018 9:55:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

The Greek text there is the Word of God.

34 posted on 09/06/2018 10:59:13 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

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The Greek text is a Greek translation of almost the word of God.


35 posted on 09/06/2018 11:03:40 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

From whence do you get these ideas?

Your church?

A book?

Some author?


36 posted on 09/06/2018 11:10:33 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

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The Hebrew words of the NT writings cannot in most cases be translated to Greek and still remain coherent representations of the original thoughts.
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37 posted on 09/06/2018 11:14:46 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

From whence do you get these ideas?

Your church?

A book?

Some author?


38 posted on 09/06/2018 11:47:05 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

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From the existence of the Hebrew from Spain in the Vatican archives. (a high percentage of the NT)

The Greek has been screaming for over a millenium that it was sloppily copied from Hebrew letters.

For a simple example, no Jew would ever have written “a feast of the jews...” They would have named the feast, since they are of great importance doctrinally.
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39 posted on 09/06/2018 1:14:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: fishtank

It’s been three days, has anyone seen John McCain?

5.56mm


40 posted on 09/06/2018 1:16:37 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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