Though I agree completely with what you said.
Before you swallow the garbage of someones second hand and confirmation biased opinion, read my post 10.
I left Willow long before any of this was even hinted about.
My reasons for leaving weren’t because of major flags I saw.
But more personal differences.
I’ve disagreed with things I’ve seen or heard, since leaving.
But I refuse to gang pile on the church.
I’ve been around many people like the above poster, who spout their garbage as facts.
I left Willow and now attend a small church (approx. 150)
Attended another large church a few times.
Have no desire for a large church (at this time)
While there, I never viewed Willow as perfect.
Obviously less so now.
But Hybels sinned... not the church
(the church being the congregation, not the organization)
The elders did wrong things.
(again...not the church)
There are MANY people there who love and serve God to the best of their ability.
God has done many wonderful things in peoples lives there.
There will be many who leave.
But there will also be many who stay, who will try to pick up the pieces and put their church back together.
Luke 22:31 “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, 32 but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.”
I find this verse reassuring in my own life.
Christ foretells of Peters betrayal.
Christ HIMSELF prays for Peters faith.
He knows what Peter will do...and yet...
“when you have turned again,
strengthen your brothers.”
In modern Christianity, there are no wounded Christians.
We shoot our wounded.
“In modern Christianity, there are no wounded Christians.
We shoot our wounded.”
That is priceless. Yes, I do agree with you. And I am really just very weary of organizations that take advantage of us imperfect people. And the way the libs have taken over our institution, churches too, I am far more weary. I had seeing people taken advantage of or being led astray.
And I would like to say again how much I love your quote above. And this “...strengthen your brothers”.
Priceless.
We shoot our wounded?
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Speak for yourself. That is a pathetic cliche.
Evangelical megachurch......hmmmmm.
Yes we and I all have sinned, and thank God there is forgiveness if we are penitent in faith, yet some sins directly hurt others and sexual abuse of kids is most intolerable. But as posted as a comparison? A young church volunteer versus ordained priests in long-term abuse of boys,often shuffled around from parish to parish, and accusations of sexual abuse of women versus Catholic homosexual predators.
Which posting is the RC response to articles such as How the Church Hoodwinked Its Anti-Abuse Experts