[piusv]

Those are excellent quotes. This is why sedevacantists look to the Catholic teaching of Saint Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, on the matter of a heretic pope:

Therefore, the true opinion is the fifth, according to which the Pope who is manifestly a heretic ceases by himself to be Pope and head, in the same way as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the body of the Church; and for this reason he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction..

First, manifest heretic ceases by himself to be pope (and therefore no longer pope, so can be judged)

Second, Church official declaration of the first (therefore not judging "the pope").

[Elsie]

Therefore, the true opinion is the fifth, according to which the Pope who is manifestly a heretic ceases by himself to be Pope and head, in the same way as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the body of the Church; and for this reason he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction..

First, manifest heretic ceases by himself to be pope (and therefore no longer pope, so can be judged)

 

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HMMMmmm...

 

Just WHO decides just what HERESY is????

[daniel1212]

Those are excellent quotes. This is why sedevacantists look to the Catholic teaching of Saint Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church, on the matter of a heretic pope: Therefore, the true opinion is the fifth, according to which the Pope who is manifestly a heretic ceases by himself to be Pope and head, in the same way as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the body of the Church; and for this reason he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction

However, this would mean that the pope is not the supreme judge of what is heresy. And as said, whether a pope can be deposed against his will, is matter of debate (which it seems only a pope can settle).

Of course, just as you all consider a heretic pope to be no pope, and thus sedevacantists have had none for decades, based on their judgment that modern popes violate ancient Catholic church teaching, likewise do we fundamental evangelicals reject all popes of Rome as based on our judgment that all popes (versus Peter, etc.) violate the most ancient wholly inspired substantive church teaching, the Scriptures.

No wonder traditional RCs are called "Protestant" by mainstream RCs.