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To: Sontagged
This “Bloodless Body” view appears to have first been put forward by a Lutheran by the name of J. A. Bengel (1687-1752). Bengel’s original theory was fairly complicated, as he had elaborate work-arounds for passages like Hebrews 9:11-14, 24-26, in which Christ is depicted as entering Heaven with His Blood.<.i>

Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own (shed) blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: Heb 9:14 How much more shall the (shed) blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

There is nothing in these passages that suggest Jesus brought any blood to heaven with him...In fact, it is just the opposite...Jesus had to lose his blood to get there...

Jesus' physical, terrestrial body had to be changed into a celestial body unlike anything any human can comprehend...Jesus' physical body can walk thru doors and walls and anything else he wants to walk thru...

What would be the need for blood in heaven??? 'Human life is in the blood but so is human death...Most every disease known to man is the result of bad blood...Why would God want blood in heaven???

58 posted on 07/18/2018 6:16:35 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

No, the author is merely trying to trace the historical origins of this strange doctrine.

He means no blood in His body after the Resurrection, but not after the Ascension.


66 posted on 07/18/2018 10:08:47 AM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Iscool

Oops, I meant to say that the author here is evidencing that Jesus did have blood in His flesh and bones body after the Resurrection and up through the Ascension.


69 posted on 07/18/2018 10:17:23 AM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Iscool; teppe
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own (shed) blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Not quite in Mormonism; right teppe?

There is the Blood Atonement thing that states a sinners OWN blood must be shed; that Christ's doesn't quite have enough power (or something).

Do I have that about right; teppe?

80 posted on 07/18/2018 3:11:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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