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Study Affirms Earth Is Uncommon and Perhaps Even Unique
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 07-12-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 07/13/2018 9:42:03 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: mowowie

And you can never confirm the current existence of life.

Suppose a radio telescope on earth receives a signal that says, “Hey, we have high hopes for your planet that just formed! Get back to us ASAP!”

That message was sent perhaps three billion years ago from a planet three billion light years away and we respond, “Guess what? Donald Trump was elected president!” They get that message, if they still exist in three billion years, and by the time they get back to us in six billion years. we will not exist.

It would be like a very slow AOL Chat Room.


41 posted on 07/13/2018 11:12:53 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

Since there’s no evidence of that, there is plenty of doubt.


42 posted on 07/13/2018 11:17:55 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: mowowie
"... how long have we been around, 300,000 years?"

Perhaps more to the point; for how many of those years have humans had the ability to count past ten?

You don't have to go back very far, if at all, to find ridiculous things that humans believed.

If humanity lasts another 1000 years, we may then have a very different picture of who we are, where we came from, and where we are going.

The Drake Equation perhaps needs some terms to reflect the limited capabilities of those who are using the equation.

43 posted on 07/13/2018 11:20:11 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Big Red Badger

f I may try,
The Bibles’ stated purpose of;

The Stars...to give light and
mark the seasons. —Gen.1:14-28.

First, peoples and religions before Christianity and Judaism used the stars to mark the growing seasons. To write this down is only to affirm what was happening before it was written down.

The Earth...Created to be inhabited Only.
-—Is.45:18.

Second, no the Earth was created to be a carnival ride in the Universe. It spins. It travels really really fast and occasionally there are bumps. Let’s not forget the ones who throw things at the Earth to knock down the milk bottles! /s

Other Sheep, but Not biological Entities

A corporation is an entity but is not biological, unless it is Monsanto, in that case, it seeks to destroy biological entities. Gitty up! Roundup.

Gen.2:1——Luke2,24.


44 posted on 07/13/2018 11:23:31 AM PDT by zaxtres
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To: Big Red Badger

f I may try,
The Bibles’ stated purpose of;

The Stars...to give light and
mark the seasons. —Gen.1:14-28.

First, peoples and religions before Christianity and Judaism used the stars to mark the growing seasons. To write this down is only to affirm what was happening before it was written down.

The Earth...Created to be inhabited Only.
-—Is.45:18.

Second, no the Earth was created to be a carnival ride in the Universe. It spins. It travels really really fast and occasionally there are bumps. Let’s not forget the ones who throw things at the Earth to knock down the milk bottles! /s

Other Sheep, but Not biological Entities

A corporation is an entity but is not biological, unless it is Monsanto, in that case, it seeks to destroy biological entities. Gitty up! Roundup.

Gen.2:1——Luke2,24.


45 posted on 07/13/2018 11:23:57 AM PDT by zaxtres
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To: zaxtres

I stand...
Well
Corrected?
I liked the Milkbottle thing!


46 posted on 07/13/2018 11:26:28 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: DungeonMaster

No, it doesn’t.


47 posted on 07/13/2018 11:26:44 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Finding evidence of life in the universe is not impossible because there is no other life in the universe, it’s because we cannot observe current conditions other places in the universe.


48 posted on 07/13/2018 11:26:57 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

The same can be said of Bigfoot or the lock ness monster. I’m not saying life does not exist on other worlds, but saying it MUST exist is no different than saying God MUST exist. In the absence of evidence, there is plenty of doubt.


49 posted on 07/13/2018 11:30:24 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Chances are far greater that life exists in the universe than the chances the Lockness Monster existing.


50 posted on 07/13/2018 11:34:22 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

Yet there’s the same amount of evidence for the Lock Ness Monster since people claim to have seen both.


51 posted on 07/13/2018 11:36:14 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Salvation
From the article: "... but there is about a 50 percent chance we are alone in the entire observable universe."

One of the most impressive lectures I remember from elementary physics was the description of how Maxwell's equations applied to electromagnetic waves derived a propagation velocity for the waves which somewhat unexpectedly turned out to be virtually indistinguishable from the speed of light. These calculations provided very convincing evidence that "light" was an electromagnetic wave.

In this article we are expected to believe that a rigorous calculation of the probability of finding other life in the universe is approximately 50%.

Think about that for a moment.

Imagine the coincidence of multiplying a dozen or so extremely large or extremely small probabilities together and just coincidentally getting a product which is anywhere near the value "1" (as is the case with a probability of 53%, for example).

If any of the factors making up the product were uncertain by a factor of 100, then that factor alone could cause the resulting product to vary from a low of 0.01 to a high of 100. I doubt very seriously that the combination of factors which make up the Drake Equation are sufficiently well known to ascertain that the probability of finding other life in the universe can be thought of as equivalent to a coin flip. It's much more likely that the incertainties in such a calculation would span many, many orders of magnitude.

There would be three possible outcomes I might expect.

One would be that there is a wide range of probabilities but that the entire range is one of very tiny numbers.

The second possible outcome is quite the opposite; that is, the entire range consists of very large numbers; indicating that the probability is almost certain.

The final possible outcome would be that the range of results goes from the very tiny to the very large; indicating that we are quite uncertain whether there is little chance of other life or whether there is almost certainly other life.

52 posted on 07/13/2018 11:40:40 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Salvation

I’ve never believed in space aliens. After I became a Christian I doubled down on that belief because when you look at His creation no two things are alike: not leaves on a tree, not one blade of grass is like another, no two stars are duplicates, no two fingerprints are the same. So why would He duplicate our beautiful Earth? He’s not in the business of xeroxing anything including mankind.


53 posted on 07/13/2018 12:00:45 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: DungeonMaster; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o
Scripture tells us:

From this I conclude the following:


54 posted on 07/13/2018 12:12:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: RatRipper

Mormons have latched on to that statement as a means to justify Mormonism. However, Jesus is referring to Gentiles as the other sheep in this passage.


55 posted on 07/13/2018 12:36:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation

Seems like all this is based on the one example of life we know about, us. I mean we can extrapolate the conditions and parameters that allow our type of life to exist, but how can you then say with such assurance all life must have these conditions? We have exactly one example—no one can extrapolate much from one example and claim this must apply everywhere. It could very well apply everywhere, but no one can know for sure until and if we ever find other examples.

Freegards


56 posted on 07/13/2018 12:37:40 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Salvation

Let’s add a bit to number 12...

“Our moon causes tides that are just strong enough to permit tidal zones (a great breeding ground for diverse life) but not so severe as to destroy life.”

Yes, but how much MORE unlikely is it that our moon is also precisely the right size and in an orbit that routinely places it at the precise distance between the surface of the Earth and the Sun such that we can just see bits of it in the cracks between moon mountains during full eclipses.

“The first or final piece of solar photosphere shining through the deepest valley on the Moon’s edge creates, with the ring band of the inner corona, the most spectacular of all eclipse phenomena: the diamond ring.”

Get back to me when

A. It can be shown, universally speaking, that that isn’t spectacularly rare.
or
B. We can engineer such conditions on a similar scale. (Go Space Force!)


57 posted on 07/13/2018 12:54:11 PM PDT by EasySt (Truth will Prevail)
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To: Salvation

In other news researchers prove that there are no Black Swans. I’m just sayin’.


58 posted on 07/13/2018 12:59:16 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Please explain what this undefined period of time has to do with the existence of other inhabited planets. I'm still interested.

24 hour days that are the same before the sun as they were after the sun. There is no point in the time being different before or after the sun.

Given that the universe is 6000 years old and the stars were all made as window dressings on the 4th day. In Revelation 6 the stars will be instantly turned into sparkles and fall to the earth because the earth is the center of creation.

Given these biblical truths there is no reason to think for one second that there is life on other planets.

However, the Pope doesn't seen to believe any of these things.

59 posted on 07/13/2018 1:00:23 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light...)
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To: DungeonMaster
"Given these biblical truths there is no reason to think for one second that there is life on other planets."

Even if we stipulated the above as facts, it would not constitute an argument against life on other planets. There's no logical connection.

BTW I don't have nearly enough knowledge to justify having a firm opinion one way or the other.

60 posted on 07/13/2018 1:09:10 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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