Darius,
As a Jew with years of education which turned me into an atheist (I tend toward the “Just the facts, Madam” school of inquiry, i.e., reason vs. faith) let me say that whatever this thread is trying to sort out, I agree with you. Whether or not you believe in a mystical realm, man is given as part of his survival tool the faculty of reason. Reason, as Jefferson said, must trump faith in matters of state and/or relations among men. Sadly, this faculty is less used than in the days of olde.
TW
I cannot imagine what you could possibly profit from reading the religion thread here. No more thunderous buffoonery is to be be found elsewhere. Shalom my friend.