Catholic bishops rebuke Trump’s asylum changes, suggest ‘canonical penalties’

RNS Religious News Service ^ | June 13, 2018 | rns

[Marchmain]

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (RNS) — The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops opened its spring meeting this week with a stern reproach of the Trump administration’s latest immigration policies, with the group’s president suggesting the new rules on asylum are a “right to life” issue.

Some bishops followed by urging protests, including “canonical penalties” for those who carry out the administration’s new rules. (cut)

Cardinal proposed that a bishops be sent to the border to inspect the detention facilities where children are kept as a “sign of our pastoral concern and protest against the hardening of the American heart.” (continues)

[Marchmain]

Extreme and punitive measures proposed by bishops against lay Catholics who support Trump policies or work with immigration.

[Yossarian]

But if you’re a politician who supports abortion, they greet you with open arms.

What stench.

[HiTech RedNeck]

It’s an important debate and even Rev. Franklin Graham is opining that families ought to be kept together in group detainments, but right to LIFE? What are they smoking? This will dilute actual right to life issues. Like anti abortion.

[no-to-illegals]

Selective outrage with money as the main selection and seduction

[HiTech RedNeck]

What is being smoked here? I never heard this kind of issue called right to life before.

[wmileo]

I am disgusted with the American version of Bishops of the Roman Catholic Church. They don't stand up for their own beliefs but stick their noses in issues which challenge the sovereignty of the United States.

Send them to Cuba, Venezuela or Old Europe.

[cmj328]

Canonical penalties = schism.

All because some kids are kept from their parents while their parents are on trial for a legit crime (entering a country illegally).

All because some women are suggested to try sheltering in their own countries against violent husbands first.

[donna]

America has prisons and jails full of mothers and fathers.

We don’t let them out to be with their children.

What’s going on here?

[steel_resolve]

Or if you’re a Christian mocking no talent whore, then Dolan will let you borrow his pope hat...

[cmj328]

Canonical penalties are typically reserved for:

• Apostasy, heresy, and schism
• Violating a vow
• A priest who violates the Seal of Confession
• Killing the innocent
• Attacking bishops or the Pope
• Desecration of the Holy Eucharist
• Profanation of sacred vessels, church buildings, etc.
• Stealing from the Church
• Sex crimes (mostly revoked 1983)

[Marchmain]

This began with something the pope said, something to do with all life, including the poor, immigration, etc, must be dealt with by Christians. Some opined at the time that it sounded like the pope meant to make “seamless garment” a dominant idea.

You’re right about diluting, this has been hijacked by left, Jesuits, etc and convoluted in articles, etc. You will see it all over, everything is now pro-life, down to turning off the A/C!

[Marchmain]

This has the tone of the Salem witch trials, with the bishops acting as puritan judges against people guilty of no crime. They are not looking at a real situation, but some theoretical travesty, pounding their fists for punishment of whoever has a different opinion. This is not the purview of bishops, or anyone! Is everyone turning totalitarian?

[cmj328]

And the only reason the women think America is a safer place to hide from their husbands than another city in their own country is, frankly, because America has a border defended by people with guns.

[cmj328]

It's the same pure politics that led to the disastrous overreach of Regnans in Excelsis.

The English sainted martyrs stayed loyal to the Crown in matters civil... one remembers Campion in particular...

[metmom]

It’s an important debate and even Rev. Franklin Graham is opining that families ought to be kept together in group detainments, but right to LIFE?

Yes, keep them all together.

And if they are illegal deport all of them.

They knew they were taking their chances. They did and they lost.

[Cowboy Bob]

The Catholic Church is very strong in Central and South America. Why don't they try to help people in their home countries? All the church does is collect money and criticize.

Why don't they give people asylum in their church, rather than sit back and let these people make a dangerous journey to the north?

The Catholic Church is no better than career politicians. They will point out a problem, talk about it, but do nothing to change it.

[TonyM]

I have never had much respect for the Catholic religion and recent events such as this and making an evil anti-Christian the Pope have removed even the slightest respect for it. If I were a Catholic I would have changed my faith long ago. There is nothing holy about the Catholic church now and anyone who remains affiliated with it should not be allowed to call themselves a Christian. It is to the point where I have no more respect for Catholicism than I do for Islam, both of which are just evil cults.

[cranked]

U.S. Catholics must be proud.....

[cmj328]

I consider this one bishop, Weisenburger, to be ipso facto schismatic, like his predecessors in the office, Judas and Arius.

[Dagnabitt]

The old leftist queens running the RC Church hate the USA and cannot wait for its absorption into the third world.