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To: metmom

“If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.”
[John 6:52]

“He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.”
[John 6:55]

“For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.”
[John 6:56]

“He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.”
[John 6:57]

“Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.”
[John 6:54]

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
[John 1:14]

“And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body.”
[Matthew 26:26]

“And whilst they were eating, Jesus took bread; and blessing, broke, and gave to them, and said: Take ye. This is my body.”
[Mark 14:22]

“And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me.”
[Luke 22:19]

“And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me.”
[1 Corinthians 11:24]

“The chalice of benediction, which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? And the bread, which we break, is it not the partaking of the body of the Lord?”

“Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.”
[1 Corinthians 11:27]

“For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.”
[1 Corinthians 11:29]


119 posted on 05/25/2018 10:41:21 AM PDT by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: omegatoo

Archeology has just uncovered what appears to be the MENU of items served at the ‘Last Supper’.

They are as follows...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_Seder


120 posted on 05/25/2018 10:53:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: omegatoo

So, no will for you, eh?

You plan on living forever?

What’s with all the Catholic funerals then?

Please read above about the prohibition against eating blood and the link to metaphors.

Jesus COULD NOT have changed the Law. He stated Himself that He came not to change it but to fulfill it. If He had eaten the blood or commanded others to break the Law, He would have sinned.

Catholicism essentially tells us that Jesus did that then.


121 posted on 05/25/2018 10:53:43 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: omegatoo

I don’t know if you’re arguing in favor of the Catholic idea of transubstantiation here.

But most of your verses make good points regarding the Lord’s Supper being Jesus’ true body and blood.

I would personally focus on 1 Corinthians most though.

But I don’t think Scripture supports transubstantiation, though. Since verses refer to both bread and body, and transubstantiation says that there is no bread left, iirc.


123 posted on 05/25/2018 11:01:53 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: omegatoo; metmom
Context omegatoo....context is your friend in understanding the New Testament.

Allow me to illustrate.

The five accounts we have of the Lord's Supper in the New Testament.

I have attempted to highlight the critical parts to help the reader understand the context of the passage.

Matthew 26:26-29 Mark 14:22-24 Luke 22:14-20 John 13:21-26 1 Corinthians 11:23-26
26While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” 27And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you;

28for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

29“But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

22While they were eating, He took some bread, and after a blessing He broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is My body.” 23And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, and they all drank from it.

24And He said to them, “This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.

25“Truly I say to you, I will never again drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”.

14When the hour had come, He reclined at the table, and the apostles with Him. 15And He said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; 18for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.”19And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you;

do this in remembrance of Me.”

20And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.

21When Jesus had said this, He became troubled in spirit, and testified and said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, that one of you will betray Me.” 22The disciples began looking at one another, at a loss to know of which one He was speaking.23There was reclining on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved. 24So Simon Peter gestured to him, and said to him, “Tell us who it is of whom He is speaking.” 25He, leaning back thus on Jesus’ bosom, said to Him, “Lord, who is it?”

26Jesus then answered, “That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him.” So when He had dipped the morsel, He took and gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

23For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you;

do this in remembrance of Me.”

25In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”

26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.

Key Phrases/words:

Poured out: In the OT the blood sacrifice was never consumed; it was always poured out. We further have the drink offering which was poured out before God as a sacrifice (Ex 29:40, Numbers 15:4-5).

29.11 ἀνάμνησις, εως f: (derivative of ἀναμιμνῄσκω ‘to cause to remember,’ 29.10) the means for causing someone to remember—‘means of remembering, reminder.’ ἀλλ’ ἐν αὐταῖς ἀνάμνησις ἁμαρτιῶν κατ’ ἐνιαυτόν ‘but in those (sacrifices) there is a yearly reminder of sins’ or ‘… that people have sinned’ He 10:3. Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 347). New York: United Bible Societies.

147 posted on 05/26/2018 6:25:36 AM PDT by ealgeone
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