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To: ADSUM

So much wrong here I dont know where to start. I do not recognize the Roman authors or popes, what they say is of no consequence, and you cannot find the Roman church in scripture, it hadn’t been invented yet. Christ would be surprised to find He needed help in the work of salvation. His finished work on the cross is sufficient and needs no help, not from us, from Mary or from the Roman church. The Church is the body of believers across time and space and will be revealed when Christ comes for His bride. It has nothing to do with a particular Roman sect.

The Roman church has done many things that are contrary to Christs Word and have harmed the true Church, they have nothing to brag about. As for which leader has primacy in the Church, it is Christ alone. If you think your pope is leader of the Church then I have to ask which one? There have been times in your history when you have had two different men claiming the office. Your group has added its writings and man made rules to be equal to Scripture and done so without shame, in fact you are proud of it. You have robbed your followers of the blessed assurance of their salvation then scoffed at those who have it.

Believers are indeed the body of Christ and some in the Roman sect are included in that but far from all. As Paul said we see through a glass darkly - no group or sect has the exclusive inside track on Truth. We only find Truth in Scripture and in Jesus Christ. Return to Christ and trust Him only, give up your man made rules and extra Biblical teachings and you will have a much deeper relationship with our Savior and a more fulfilled life. If you cant do that, at least stop trying to tell others your convoluted way is the sole repository of Truth. You are wrong.


83 posted on 05/12/2018 5:48:56 AM PDT by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD

Then you don’t believe in St Peter or the Catholic authors that wrote the text of the New Testament inspired by the Holy Spirit.

So you have proof (or just your personal opinion) that the Catholic Church was not founded by Jesus Christ and imbued with the Holy Spirit at Pentecost and has not spread the good news as Christ instructed? Also please document the “Roman Church” or acknowledge that this is just a protestant nickname.

So what church do you belong to? Is it organized or just appears from space? Please document when “the Roman church” was established?

Your comment: “Christ would be surprised to find He needed help in the work of salvation. His finished work on the cross is sufficient and needs no help, not from us, from Mary or from the Roman church.”

We still need to accept Jesus by Baptism and follow His commandments to Love God and our neighbor.

So the good news was spread by itself - Christ used His Church, the Apostles and successors to spread the good news. Many baptized Catholics have influenced others by their lives and martyrdom to follow Christ.

Yes the Catholic Church has saints and sinners and its mission is to lead all to eternal life with Jesus. This includes, popes and priests and many others. It has made many mistakes and endured heresies and significant sinfulness and yet has endured and stayed true to God’s Word. I don’t believe that the Catholic Church has all the Truth, as there are many mysteries that even Jesus told us that we would not fully know. We have faith in Jesus.

You make general statements (personal opinion) without documentation: “Your group has added its writings and man made rules to be equal to Scripture and done so without shame, in fact you are proud of it. You have robbed your followers of the blessed assurance of their salvation then scoffed at those who have it.”

I hope you find Peace and Truth in Christ’s Church.


86 posted on 05/12/2018 6:46:16 AM PDT by ADSUM
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