Posted on 05/10/2018 9:43:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It's the question I'm asked over and over again. It's the question that's dividing churches and separating family members. It's the question that must be answered: Can you be gay and Christian?
Well, if you claim to be a Christian, that means that Jesus is your Lord and the Bible is your authority, so the real question is: What does Jesus have to say about this? And what does the Bible – God's Word – have to say? That's what we need to find out.
Of course, we understand that every Christian struggles in some area, whether it be pride or anger or lust or jealousy or greed. But we also recognize that these desires and attitudes are sinful, and so we say No to them and Yes to the Lord.
In the same way, some Christians struggle with same-sex attractions, saying No to those attractions and Yes to the Lord. That's their area of temptation and battle.
But what about those who say, "God made me gay, and if I'm in a committed relationship, the Lord is pleased. After all God is love, and love wins. What the Bible opposes is abusive relationships, like homosexual pederasty and prostitution and promiscuity. That's what the Scriptures condemn. But the Lord blesses committed same-sex relationships."
Is this true?
There's only one way to answer this question. With humility, we must come to God and His Word and say, "Father, whatever You say, we will obey. We only want Your will."
So, what does God's Word have to say? Can you practice homosexuality and follow Jesus at the same time? And does God's Word
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Amen. Jesus didn't say to the sinner on the cross next to him, "get back to me when you have 10 notches in your membership card". Jesus always preached turning away from sin, now today—not after you've joined some club.
Romans 1 gives the biblical response. One only turns to the gay lifestyle after rejecting God enough times bringing about God’s rejection of them.
Yet, man continues to create a god in their own likeness - sinful and impure.
To become a Christian you MUST repent (turn away from) your sin and turn to Christ. You identify with Christ and not with your sin.
A person can struggle with same sex attraction and be a Christian. They deny their sinful lusts and identify with Christ.
A person cannot be gay and be a Christian. By identifying with their sin they are not fully repented of it. Without repentance there is no salvation.
(Which is pretty much what you said but I felt it needed more detail and explanation due to your first word.)
Just like many are tempted to fornication outside of marriage.
Both are sexual sins.
We need to be serious about them both.
Not a New Testament teaching.
Do you offer the same answer each time asked?
Very often repeatedly asking the same question means they haven't heard an answer that suits them. Find something to stand on and then stand.
Notice in those accounts who the person appealed to. It wasn’t a Roman Catholic priest.
I was making a dig at the liberal’s perversion of our language.
No.
If you are a Christian who struggles with homosexual temptation, my heart goes out to you, but your temptation is not your identity.
If you put being gay first, you are not a Christian.
I’ve been doing a lot of reading about deliverance lately and all the different sources are of the same opinion, that homosexual temptation is demonic in origin and that the only way to successfully deal with it is to deal with the spiritual battle and be delivered of the demons that inflict that on people.
Sal: After they receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation/Penance.
Leave it to the Catholic church to add to what God says.
Romanism is man's ways, not God's ways.
God's way is this....
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Jesus came and called sinners to Himself, without making them perform on Rome's Hamster Wheel of Works.
It would be no different than someone claiming that they were a Christian adulterer, a Christian extortionist, a Christian thief, a Christian murderer, and so on.
You cannot embrace your sin to the point of identity and use Christ as fire insurance.
Can you be a Democrat and be a Christian?
“UIM, the phrase “sacrament of penance and reconciliation” is how the Catholic Church describes that particular part of doctrine.
It is how Rome attempted to change the simple words of God, by inserting someone between the sinner and God... and turning the act of repentance and confession into a sacrament, which Scripture doesn’t do.
That verse does not support the so called sacrament of reconciliation/penance.
Well said.
Sin can open the door for demonic oppression of the believer, which is probably why Jesus gave the admonition. Especially if the person had been healed from a spiritually caused affliction.
By engaging in that sin again, that would allow for the same spiritual attack that brought about the previous illness.
Aside from the fact that sin dishonors God and breaks our fellowship, our lines of communication, with Him.
James is distinguishing between mere mental assent and true saving faith.
He is NOT advocating that works are necessary to become or stay saved.
Demons are not saved because Jesus did not die for demons and they are not offered the opportunity to receive salvation, which is why they believe and tremble.
There is no such thing as penance taught in Scripture.
There is repentance, which is not the same as penance.
Yes; I know. Apparently some believe it does. Some believe anything they’re programmed since childhood to believe.
There is no such thing as penance taught in Scripture.
There is repentance, which is not the same as penance.
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IIRC, the whole ‘penance’ thing is from a mistranslation of the Greek to Latin. In Greek, Jesus says ‘Repent and believe in the Gospel.’ But Jerome’s Latin translation reads, ‘Do penance and believe in the Gospel.’
This is one big reason why the original languages are so important!
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