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Cardinal Eijk: “Pope Francis Completely Incomprehensible”
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Posted on 05/07/2018 10:43:15 AM PDT by ebb tide

Cardinal Eijk: “Pope Francis Completely Incomprehensible”

Pope Francis' wish that the German bishops should try to achieve unanimity regarding the acceptance of Protestant Communion is “completely incomprehensible”, according to Cardinal Willem Eijk of Utrecht, Netherlands.

Writing in ncregister.com (May 7), Eijk states the obvious, that even if all German bishops agree to “allow” Protestant Communion, it is still contrary to the Faith,

“The practice of the Catholic Church, based on her faith, is not determined and does not change statistically when a majority of an episcopal conference votes in favor of it, not even if unanimously.”

Eijk accuses Francis of “failing to create clarity”. He concludes, “Great confusion is created among the faithful and the unity of the Church is endangered”.

The Cardinal points out that [Francis'] individual case trick will end up with all Protestants [or Moslems] receiving Communion,

“The general experience with this type of adjustment is that the criteria are quickly extended.”

It has been a tacit consent in Germany for decades not only to allow Protestants to receive Communion but even to invite them to do so.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: collegiality; franicschurch; sacrilege
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1 posted on 05/07/2018 10:43:15 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

What a great name! It’s like a tensor analysis summation.


2 posted on 05/07/2018 10:46:31 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: ebb tide

Jesus said “Do this in memory of me”.

He did NOT add “Unless you’re one of those other guys”


3 posted on 05/07/2018 10:47:09 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: ebb tide

The current occupant of the Chair of Peter seems to be in over his head. All this stuff about Tradition, Dogma, Canon Law, Magisterium seem to be too much for him.

He absolutely doesn’t have the energy of John Paul II. He seems tired, uninterested in anything that isn’t directly related to giving money to the “poor.”


4 posted on 05/07/2018 10:50:25 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Mr. K
To whom did he say that? His apostles (a small, dedicated group of disciples). Not to every random person he ran into in Jerusalem.

You can agree or disagree with the practice of the Catholic Church to limit reception to members only but that's the practice whether you or Pope Francis or Germany's liberal bishops like it or not.
5 posted on 05/07/2018 10:55:20 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Mr. K

He also said, “This is My Body”

and

“This is My Blood.”


6 posted on 05/07/2018 10:59:18 AM PDT by ebb tide (Remember Alfie and Charlie; boycott the UK.)
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To: ebb tide

Gabby Hayes made more sense than Francis.


7 posted on 05/07/2018 11:02:31 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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There was a theologian I read and respected. He was an expert on pastoral theology and first millennial church history.

He was having and crisis of faith many years ago and turned to a man he greatly respected, a Rabbi, and asked, perhaps I should be an adherent to the Jewish faith. His friend told him, perhaps you should try actually practicing your faith in its true depth before you start thinking of changing — see if that works.

His point was that (small “o” orthodoxy) is actually what is needed. Look at the tenants of your faith, your church, and practice those. Forget what others might be working on and “come and see” the Christ that has spoken to you over your lifetime.

If my faith wishes to invite all Christian believers to the rail, that is what I should try to adhere to in my orthodoxy. If my faith only wants members in full communion with my denomination, that is what I should be comfortable with in my worship. If my faith wants to only have members in full communion and of my particular church participate, that is something that an orthodox approach can accept as well.

Perhaps, in the practice of active Christian dedication I will be called to another denomination. If so, I am there to be worshipful and not to try and change them. I will be orthodox in my adherence.


8 posted on 05/07/2018 11:09:30 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Gabby Hayes made more sense than Francis.

>><<

Gabby Hayes was a good guy.


9 posted on 05/07/2018 11:17:28 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Mr. K; ebb tide
But there's at least three problems here:

In short: if you are in union, come to Communion.

If not, not.

Otherwise, there is an objective contradiction between receiving and not believing. Without union with Christ, a profession of Eucharistic belief, and union with the Church, receiving this Sacred Banquet would be a sacrilege, signifying divergence, not communion.

10 posted on 05/07/2018 11:23:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (We adore Thee, O Christ, and we bless Thee.)
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To: ebb tide

Yes, yes he is.


11 posted on 05/07/2018 11:41:50 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: laplata

As was sidekick California.


12 posted on 05/07/2018 11:52:30 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

You’re right. Good programs, good times.


13 posted on 05/07/2018 12:45:13 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ebb tide
It really means that satanists will have easier access to the Eucharist.

Which is probably what this is really all about.

14 posted on 05/07/2018 1:48:57 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Oh I see, ... that must have been in the fine print of the bible somewhere.

Jesus said “Do this in memory of me*”

[*unless you are not in ‘unity of belief’ and a whole bunch of nonsensical gobbledygook about ‘true Eucharistic realism’.]


15 posted on 05/08/2018 5:11:13 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Mr. K; Mrs. Don-o
She gave you the Scriptures to back up her POV.

I've noticed this pattern. A Catholic can quote chapter and verse, and the anti-Catholic comes back with "that's not what the Bible says". The Bible isn't what the Bible says? Or do you just not want to hear Scriptures that refute your pre-determined idea of how things ought to work?

16 posted on 05/08/2018 5:31:11 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre! [Hold absolutely onto the Teaching! -- BXVI])
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To: Mr. K

Tagline


17 posted on 05/08/2018 7:15:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is pure, anything of excellence, and anything praiseworthy—keep thinking about these thing)
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To: Campion
Well, I don't get too irritated anymore, but it's just disappointing when you look for a thoughtful discussion and all you get is expressions of contempt.

I suppose that's all he's got in his storehouse. And if so, that's sad.

18 posted on 05/08/2018 7:57:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For love maketh might and wisdom full meek to us." - Julian of Norwich)
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To: Campion
A Catholic can quote chapter and verse, and the anti-Catholic comes back with "that's not what the Bible says".

Because more times than not, the Roman Catholic is quoting the verse without regard to the context of the passage....the mistaken belief in the Eucharist a prime example.

19 posted on 05/08/2018 10:14:49 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Context, Mrs. D.....context is your key to properly understanding this topic.


20 posted on 05/08/2018 10:16:28 AM PDT by ealgeone
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