[boatbums]

Should I presume, then, that your argument is that unless a person agrees with the Nicene Creed, follows the Ten Commandments and obeys all the precepts of the (Roman) Catholic church, he cannot identify as a Christian nor have assurance of his salvation?

Tell me again how Catholicism teaches salvation by grace and not by works???

[infool7]

Not at all. I am simply looking for some common ground that we can all agree on. If we get up to the precepts were doing pretty good wouldn't you say?

I personally have never been taught that anyone is saved by works but you have to take my word for it and I have just been called a liar and "an insulting servant of deceit" so you'll have to take that with a grain of salt.