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Syro-Malabar [Catholic] Church Says Yoga is Incompatible with Christianity
AsiaNews ^ | 4/7/18

Posted on 04/11/2018 6:45:09 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Telepathic Intruder

Thank you for sharing. I was honestly inquiring as semantics can be a real problem in these discussions.

My own experience and thus understanding is that they are the same, but I do not impose that on others.

I do need to go public with a few demonstrations that show the public exactly how and where memories are stored in the human soul. It would really help people understand many topics currently misunderstood, not just in understanding religions but also psychology and medical science. Learning disorders, gender identity, PTSD, psychological disorders and the root causes of many/most medical illnesses are in the soul. It freaks people out when I demonstrate, especially scientists, as I am a neuroscientist and explain and demonstrate the process in their terms.


101 posted on 04/12/2018 4:33:17 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired
They really don’t understand yoga.

ROFL!!!!

102 posted on 04/12/2018 4:39:16 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: sergeantdave

Homemade Chocolate chip cookies are da Bomb!


103 posted on 04/12/2018 6:37:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: NorthMountain

Yoga is a spiritual exercise. One of the primary purposes is to remove our bodies defense mechanisms that block the communication between the physical body and our soul so we can resolve the wounds in our souls that become obstacles to Love in us.

For example, people with unresolved childhood security issues develop lower back pain in the lumbar region of the spine as the muscles contract to block the emotionally uncomfortable issues from bridging into the central nervous system.

The same is true for betrayal issues that are anchored in our backs, the defense mechanism of the muscle compression causes the “knife in the back” feeling associated when the T1-T2 dermatome input is blocked in the afferent sensory neuron cell body head in the dorsal root ganglion.

When I touch the stored memory in a person’s soul that is anchored at that point of the physical body, the defense system triggers and the person experiences the physical muscle contraction.

This is simple stimulus response testing easily done in a lab. Pure simple science.


104 posted on 04/12/2018 6:40:17 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Fungi; tired&retired
Nonsense. Are you a Christian?

He's a new ager.

American conservatives can be so naive. Most of them assume that all other conservatives believe exactly as they do. They don't realize they're dealing with new agers, atheists, or raving anti-Semites. I've seen Nazis post here screaming about the "old testament" and good naive FReepers quoting the "new testament" to correct their "chrstian brother" when they don't realize they're not dealing with a fellow-chrstian; they're dealing with a Nazi.

Most American chrstians don't even realize there's a whole ancient chrstian world out there (other than Catholicism) about which they know absolutely nothing.

105 posted on 04/12/2018 7:28:39 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I am a Christian, accept Jesus as my Savior and the Bible as the word of God.

I find most Christians are very shallow in their beliefs and as such, their doubt blocks them from doing the many things that Jesus stated in the Bible... “ Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. “

They are like Peter in that they deny they very things most important.

Rather than following Jesus’ teachings, they are like hollow drums, being very loud and lacking substance and complexity. They treat true Christians like the Pharisees treated Jesus.

That is fine as they will hear when they need to hear and see when they need to see. In the interim, just as Jesus stated in the parable of when the tares were planted in the wheat, they are all still asleep.


106 posted on 04/12/2018 8:02:59 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Thank you for the nice response. I drifted waaaaay off the main theme of the thread.

I don't know what exactly the significance of Jesus' discourse with the crowd about John the Baptist . . .some say and so on (writing from bad memory). Sometimes I wonder if he played people along because they probably wouldn't accept the truth anyway.

I know Elijah went to heaven in a flaming chariot. Elias didn't die either. It is some mystery to me. Moses did die, and he and Elijah appeared to Jesus in the cloud on the mount at the transfiguration.

Yes the black ball and other things, you got the keyword being gateway (to the dark side or occult). Essentially I was only seeking for myself to find if God really existed, peace and desperate for healing and found none of those until I turned away and back to God. I don't know why I never found peace, but I do think I arrived at a saving knowledge of Christ and understanding that not all conditions are healed in this life. Some may be because we don't understand how to ask properly or other causes. We all have to eventually face death anyway. Except those at the very end who are alive at Christ's return.

108 posted on 04/12/2018 3:23:15 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: marshmallow

Tai-chi is superior to yoga and has none of the religious/meditative aspects that yoga does. Screw yoga. Tai-chi is the best form of exercise ever developed. It is also one of the most effective martial arts ever developed.


109 posted on 04/12/2018 5:25:37 PM PDT by Grugore
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To: Telepathic Intruder
I kind of flipped the other way when I turned back to Christianity. I've been told that as a Catholic, I am too rigid. Maybe I need to lighten up but I'm too afraid myself to get caught up in that deception again. I think I'm still suffering the effects of it or a familial spirit or generational curse (immediate generations except for one Lutheran grandmother were essentially unbelievers). I'm not blaming them because I don't know for sure and pray for their souls.

But you are exactly right, and I have watched in shock when fellow Christians veer off into that territory. I mildly mention or warn them but it always falls on deaf ears and I need to be loving and tolerant of them anyway as they usually are with me.

110 posted on 04/12/2018 5:56:11 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: tired&retired

Actually I like Jesus and his teachings. But I will keep my 5000 year old Hindu religion, which has taught me tolerance of other religions, has taught me that work is worship, and even more important to not commit any sins because every sin can only be washed away by performing double amount of good deeds. Hindu’s can not wash away sins simply by repenting. They are required to do many more good deeds to neutralize sins. Result is I have been prosperous, have a very loving family, and I can’t be any happier with my life. At age 78, I require not a single medication, have no pain anywhere in my body, and can break my age playing golf! It does not get any better!!

And I have more Christian friends in United States than of any other religion.


111 posted on 04/12/2018 7:04:30 PM PDT by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is growing EXPONENTIALLY..)
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To: Aliska
I don't have faith in any particular church, although I'm a Catholic. The church is there only to guide and provide a place of community worship. The problem is a lot of people believe what is comfortable to them, and not necessarily the truth. The church is there to remind them of the truth but too often it just wants its member to feel good about themselves in order to keep them. Every spirit must be tested, but you can't test your own if you won't be true to our own self.

About Moses in the Bible (yes this is off theme), it says he grave is unknown, and no one saw him die since he went off alone. He was also seen in the transfiguration talking to Elijah. This gives me the idea (an hypothesis only) that he also didn't die, but was carried to heaven like Elijah. In any case, we are all destined for two things: death, and then judgement. What you want to do is make sure your name is written in the Book of Life. So don't lose faith.
112 posted on 04/12/2018 11:23:51 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder
bttt so I don't forget. It's awful to be so conflicted at this point of my life. I think issues I've had might have affected my inability to believe in my heart that God loves me like some people are able to so confidently claim, especially those who have been loved, maybe moreso by a believer. Like "I have always known that God loves me" A Catholic therapist I won't name.

Intellectually I definitely believe it. But even with love, it's hard to keep it pure and unconditional and as the bible says "without guile". The latter doesn't seem to be emphasized enough or that people have enough introspection to see their true motives in things they do for good or for ill.

Hope things are going well for you and yours.

113 posted on 04/26/2018 3:04:53 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
"As I live, says the Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but they turn from their ways and live". To me, that's a promise that God loves everyone and no one will be turned away if they repent their misdeeds. I've also been witness to something one might consider a miracle which tends to confirm this.

For myself, I've always had a hard time with the "love thy enemy part". But on inspection, what good is it if you only love your friends, and hate your enemies? It's what everyone does. It serves no purpose and accomplishes nothing. But to wish well for those who hate you requires effort, and can possibly lead to reconciliation. It's a goal, therefore, not just something that comes easy.
114 posted on 04/26/2018 3:36:36 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder
I tried loving my enemies when my ex left me (partly my fault) for a very difficult woman. She liked being a Christian, I was kind of a neophyte myself. She nearly ate me alive and I severed the relationship. Then I gave her another chance after many years, and she wasn't as vicious as before but it was too difficult because I thought she was totally into herself and interests, pretty much like my ex looking back on it. And nobody is all bad, I know that. If you think I am being too fault finding, you can tell me nicely and I'll consider it.

But it is a huge issue with me. Am surrounded with people I'm supposed to love who have either betrayed me or (twenty or more reasons).

Your first paragraph I agree with. I hope you don't mind, but I looked up some of your posts on a multitude of subjects and I really like the way you think and apply what you believe. Yes I have sincerely, some more deeply than others, repented and asked forgiveness for the ones I remember. I'll keep working on that part as I tend to be too hard on myself and can't let go of guilt.

I'm concerned most right now about doctrine and looked at most of any churches I'd even consider. Most I don't know where they got the authority to go against one of the top commandments with icons and statues. I'm kind of live and let live on that but no longer do any of it but still have things in my home.

And just because I like the way you think, I don't want to lean on your faith which obviously you are a faith-filled person although I guess that's what fellowship is for. I have to put Christ in the Holy Trinity first and always which is easier said than done.

I can be more loving to enemies who aren't a constant thorn in my side. I guess they don't do it but it exacerbates a physical condition that they are probably not the root cause of.

115 posted on 04/26/2018 3:54:03 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Clarification on my #115. I never "stalk" FReepers around. I rarely even look at their about page. It was just today I started looking up your posts on various subjects, not that you have to pass some litmus test with me.

My main focus is Catholics who leave the church. I was a convert in 1991 and lasted about 7 years, tried to go back. Some problems were pretty superficial on my part, some due to my emotional vulnerabilities, and the rest I feel warranted leaving. I feel like this huge cloud has been hanging over my head about it.

The NT has one and possibly two anathemas or curses. Wanting to be super Catholic, I read a lot of past documents, among them the Council of Trent and the long string of anathemas which have never been resincded. Just remebering some of them still fill me with fear. No pronouncement ever seems to be, just glossed over. And it was my ego that drove me to read a lot of things so I would feel like I was as good as a priest. It's hard to admit some of these things but I'll never be free, maybe not until I die if then, unless I'm as honest as I can be. Chronic depression doesn't help, and I don't think I resent God because I haven't been delivered from it even by those awful pills.

Most people who post anywhere on the internet about it leave due to sex the church prohibits, women priests, gay issues, things like that.

It wasn't that for me; I kind of liked having a solid foundation of rults. But it was the extra popular beliefs that made it extremely difficult. Like Medjugorje, Guadalups, because those things seemed to keep the people excited. Like the mass and sacraments and sharing weren't enough.

Sorry I opened up so much. I want to hear your side of things and especially how you can leave and seemingly "not look back" and free from torment about it.

THANK YOU for listening. I never know how it will be about going to the ER from one day to the next, so if you don't hear from me, that might be why. Although in addition to everything else, Christian belief has never been a requirement. One big CEO of our ever expanding hospital system hosted a fund raiser for Hillary. Haven't been able to shake it although it shouldn't have a whole lot to do with anything. But of late with all this ugliness, I have to ask if I want to submit to people who vote for the people who are tormenting Trump in extremely immoral and unethical ways, even though I'm the first thing to say he has his flaws; I support most of what he is trying to do except now Macron has apparently enticed us to stay in Syria. Why?.

There was a four-month spread where four times they tried to operate on the wrong body part to the point people take markers and write. There is another hospital much smaller where they caught things bit monster one didn't catch. So I asked a nurse about it, and she said they "are our bitter enemies." Generally the biggest one has the best for instance heart care.

I believe there might be such a thing as collective guilt even though no one in the Seven Churches in Asia were told to leave, just the opposite. This is now.

I certainly didn't drag out of bed today intending to start all this. So please forgive me if I'm being a nuisance. I need to listen more and talk less.

116 posted on 04/26/2018 4:29:49 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

I have to admit I’m expert in very little, and I don’t really consider myself as spiritual as some think of me, but more than some others. It depends on which side I choose to show. I have to relate, however, that I also know some someone close who is a staunch Hillary supporter and an active member of a Catholic church. I don’t know how the two can be compatible. I want to separate politics from religion, but there are too many issues that overlap. I’ve no idea what to do about it. For now it’s just been to politely disagree without getting all fire and brimstone about it.


117 posted on 04/26/2018 4:55:28 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Sorry I dumped all that on you. Spirituality is a quality that can't be quantified because people define and view it differently. With people and religion and politics, hard to separate in these times; surely things must get strained at times but best not to alienate friends and family if possible. Back to whether you are expeet or not, I just liked the way you reason and and seemed to have incorporated your faith into your worldview succinctly but sparingly.

Just when I was about ready to give up on Glenn Beck, he had a rabbi guest on today, history and theology teacher, with surprising views. Explained an old trade rouge from Mombassa north through the Red Sea to Eilat at the southern tip of Israel in ancient times. He claims Somalia and Yemen were named by Hebrew words, Somalia or Somal (phoneetic) means left and Yemen means right.

118 posted on 04/27/2018 4:53:37 PM PDT by Aliska
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