Posted on 03/29/2018 7:40:27 AM PDT by NRx
[Scalfari:] Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?
[Francis:] "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."
Bergoglio does:
6. The Churchs mandate to evangelize in relation to Judaism
40. It is easy to understand that the socalled mission to the Jews is a very delicate and sensitive matter for Jews because, in their eyes, it involves the very existence of the Jewish people. This question also proves to be awkward for Christians, because for them the universal salvific significance of Jesus Christ and consequently the universal mission of the Church are of fundamental importance. The Church is therefore obliged to view evangelisation to Jews, who believe in the one God, in a different manner from that to people of other religions and world views. In concrete terms this means that the Catholic Church neither conducts nor supports any specific institutional mission work directed towards Jews.
From the traditional Mass of the Pre-Sanctified this past Good Friday, we prayed:
Let us pray also for the faithless Jews: that A lmighty God remove the veil from their hearts, so that they too might acknowledge Jesus Christ Our Lord.
Let us pray.
Almighty and eternal God, who does not exclude from Thy mercy even Jewish faithlessness: hear our prayers, which we offer for the blindness of that people; that acknowledging the light of Thy truth, which is Christ, they may be delivered from their darkness. Through the same Lord Jesus Christ, who lives and reigns with Thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end. Amen.
Yet the Mormons, like Roman Catholicism, have elevated non-inspired texts to equal status of the inspired texts.
Christianity, and there is a difference, relies upon only the inspired texts.
Christianity is historic, 20 Centuries old and Catholic/Orthodox.
You partly have this correct.
Christianity is 20 centuries old....Roman Catholicism showed up somewhere in the 300s.
We do not see witness in the NT of what Rome claims. There is no worship of Mary, no purgatory, no requirement of clerical celibacy, no papacy or the elaborate leadership structure as seen in Rome, no Mass, no praying to the saints, no reliance upon a piece of cloth to keep you out of the hell-fires, etc.
Rome has departed from the truth.
The overwhelming emphasis on prayer in the Rosary is to Mary which is not Scriptural. Prayer is to be directed to the Creator...not the created.
1, Make the sign of the Cross and say the Apostles Creed
2. Say the Our Father
3. Say THREE Hail Marys
4. Say the Glory be to the Father
5. Announce the First Mystery, then say the Our Father
6. Say TEN Hail Marys
7. Say the Glory be to the Father
8. Announce the Second Mystery, then say the Our Father. Repeat 6 and 7 and continue with the Third, Fourth and Fifth Mysteries.
Then after all of that, there is another prayer to Mary who is called the Holy Queen. http://www.rosary-center.org/howto.htm
This means there are at least 54 prayers to Mary compared to 7 "Our Fathers".
Are you wearing a Miraculous Medal and possibly the Green or Brown Scapular as you say these "prayers".
Are you a member of the Confraternity?
For Mary to be able to handle all of the prayer requests of the Roman Catholic she has to have the abilities approximating those of the Holy Spirit.
We know the Holy Spirit searches the heart of the believer and is praying for us in ways we cannot understand (Rms 8:26-27). No where in Scripture is this ability ever accorded to the created.
The Roman Catholic seems to be making the same claim for Mary...thus equating her with the Spirit.
Through the Hail Mary, the Scapular, the Medal, the Confraternity, the Roman Catholic is saying they're trusting in Mary more than the Father to help/save them.
What you've got here is a little truth mixed in with a whole bunch of false doctrine.
It's very similar to what Israel was doing when they incorporated Baal into their worship of God.
I ask you, ebbtide....would you place your faith in Christ and only Christ for your salvation as Paul wrote in Romans?
8But what does it say? THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEARTthat is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
11For the Scripture says, WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED. Romans 10:8-11 NASB
False; the Apostle to the Gentiles wrote to the church in Rome in the First Century and it was part of the one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
You cannot show the modern Roman Catholic church in the New Testament....hence it was a later development.
The Reformation was an attempt to correct the errors of Rome.
We're still trying after all of these years.
Did JP II ever say the Jews need not convert to attain salvation?
Do you agree with Bergoglio that Jews need not accept Jesus Christ to attain salvation?
What do you think St. Paul did during his time on earth since his conversion?
Do you agree with Bergoglio that atheists can go to Heaven?
You label the Apostle Paul “St. Paul,” Pope Francis “Bergoglio,” and Pope St. John Paul II “JP II.” This suggests to me either an ignorance of what St. Paul wrote or unwillingness to learn and live it.
You mean the one where Paul wrote about all have sinned...which would include Mary (Rms 3:23).
The one where he talks about salvation through faith in Christ (Rms 5) and through Christ alone and which is a free gift (Rms 3:24) by which is not dependent upon works? (Rms 3:27-28)
The one which teaches the Holy Spirit is always praying for us? Rms (8:26-7)
The one that Paul wrote to saying:
8But what does it say? THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEARTthat is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
11For the Scripture says, WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.
What Paul does not say is very telling. Romans contradicts so much of Roman Catholic theology.
As I noted...the Roman Catholic church is not found in the New Testament.
It suggests no such thing.
Preach it, brother!
All the Catholic theology about Mary, save the virgin birth, is fabricated and not found in the NT.
Hence, Catholicism does NOT bear any resemblance to NT churches, which, BTW, for the most part met in homes.
The NT church in Rome to which Paul wrote does not by default equate to Roman Catholicism.
Yes....and?
To allow that train of thought one would have to ignore the rest of the NT and then practice some serious eisegesis.
And that is exactly what we see has happened.
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