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To: Elsie
Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

And yet not one secular historian of the time knows anything about any of those things. Deeds enough to fill more volumes than the world can hold and yet not ONE secular record.

Hmmmm... indeed.

51 posted on 03/26/2018 10:27:09 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

That is a LIE. You haven’t read the historians of that period, obviously. When you lie regarding Jesus, you reveal the spirit within you.


52 posted on 03/26/2018 12:56:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Poison Pill
From a paper on the subject:

“Testimonium Flavianum,” the relevant portion declares:
About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he . . . wrought surprising feats. . . . He was the Christ. When Pilate . . .condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared . . . restored to life. . . . And the tribe of Christians . . . has . . . not disappeared.{17}

From an essay on the subject, summarizing:
First, both Josephus and Lucian indicate that Jesus was regarded as wise.

Second, Pliny, the Talmud, and Lucian imply He was a powerful and revered teacher.

Third, both Josephus and the Talmud indicate He performed miraculous feats.

Fourth, Tacitus, Josephus, the Talmud, and Lucian all mention that He was crucified. Tacitus and Josephus say this occurred under Pontius Pilate. And the Talmud declares it happened on the eve of Passover.

Fifth, there are possible references to the Christian belief in Jesus’ resurrection in both Tacitus and Josephus. Sixth, Josephus records that Jesus’ followers believed He was the Christ, or Messiah. And finally, both Pliny and Lucian indicate that Christians worshipped Jesus as God!

PP, God is not mocked. Be very careful how you slander Him, The Christ, and His family members, namely Born from above Christians. You think you seek wisdom or are purveying wisdom, but that is hollow: 1 Cor 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

54 posted on 03/26/2018 1:21:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Poison Pill
And yet not one secular historian of the time knows anything about any of those things

So true.

Them Romans must have been crazy to incorporate Christianity into their empire.

82 posted on 03/27/2018 4:54:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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