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To: fishtank

The entire thing is a scam for money by professional Christians intercepting money meant for God when God does not need your money. The word “church” was not in the Bible until 1611. The Greek word was Ekklesia” for 1611 years which meant “The called out” or simply “the believer” . All this brick and mortar, preacher , choir, pulpit stuff is not in the Bible. It is all a money scam. By the way , a “professional Christian “ is further anyone that takes money and uses it for house payments, car payment, 401k, kids college, personal use etc., in the name of God. That included preachers— staff— worship musicians etc. etc. Anyone who lives off of “ gifts or tithes to God”.


5 posted on 03/20/2018 11:10:38 AM PDT by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: raiderboy

The entire thing is a scam for money by professional Christians intercepting money meant for God when God does not need your money. The word “church” was not in the Bible until 1611. The Greek word was Ekklesia” for 1611 years which meant “The called out” or simply “the believer” . All this brick and mortar, preacher , choir, pulpit stuff is not in the Bible. It is all a money scam. By the way , a “professional Christian “ is further anyone that takes money and uses it for house payments, car payment, 401k, kids college, personal use etc., in the name of God. That included preachers— staff— worship musicians etc. etc. Anyone who lives off of “ gifts or tithes to God”.

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The Apostle Paul disagrees.

17 Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. 18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.”


8 posted on 03/20/2018 11:14:56 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: raiderboy

Funny, that was the same thing one of our previous pastors said and he made good on it by refusing all compensation for his leadership.


11 posted on 03/20/2018 11:23:20 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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20 posted on 03/20/2018 12:04:46 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: raiderboy

Paul and the other church leaders were paid to be a church leader. They received money for their services.


22 posted on 03/20/2018 12:08:55 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: raiderboy

So don’t give.


25 posted on 03/20/2018 12:16:34 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: raiderboy

well, it may be now, but not in the beginning of the US. The church was the only entity that provided for the poor and infirm. When people who moved to another town or state got sick, or got poor, they were sent back to the town they were born. The church provided for them. Nowadays those funds are spent on vanity too often - who can have the prettiest or biggest house of worship.


34 posted on 03/20/2018 12:40:25 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: raiderboy
By the way , a “professional Christian “ is further anyone that takes money and uses it for house payments, car payment, 401k, kids college, personal use etc., in the name of God. That included preachers— staff— worship musicians etc. etc. Anyone who lives off of “ gifts or tithes to God”.

I am a missionary on a foreign field. In about 3.5 hours I am going to my place of work and I will be actively engaged with the people I am currently discipling. I have no other job. How, I ask you, can I eat, cloth myself, pay my rent, etc. if it is not gifts, financial support, given by God's people?

35 posted on 03/20/2018 12:44:59 PM PDT by Jemian (Americans are dreamers, too.)
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To: raiderboy

This is a good verse for your thoughts about a professional clergy.

39 posted on 03/20/2018 1:08:53 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: raiderboy

I agree in many ways with your post.


76 posted on 03/20/2018 7:54:41 PM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: raiderboy
Preacher's got to eat too...And he is worthy of his hire...And you're right...We the assembly don't need church buildings...We can stand outside, under the oak tree, all winter long...

Anyone who lives off of “ gifts or tithes to God”

What do you s'pose the assemblies do then, with all that money???

86 posted on 03/21/2018 1:12:01 AM PDT by Iscool
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