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Christian Parents Lose Custody of Daughter After Refusing to Support her ‘Transition’ to Male
LifeSite News ^ | 2/14/18 | Fr. Mark Hodges

Posted on 02/18/2018 5:36:13 PM PST by marshmallow

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To: Yaelle

What other pathologies or general bad decisions should parents go along with in order to prevent their children’s feeling rejected? Or to put it another way, what should parents NOT support and facilitate? Anything?


21 posted on 02/18/2018 7:01:59 PM PST by Tax-chick ("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: marshmallow

So, a minor child “suffers” from a mental illness and the government removes her from her natural parents because the parents, in loco parentis, make choices appropriate for the child based on their discretion? Since when did a child disagreeing with their parents make a case for government intervention?

So, again, who is crazy? The Judge and the state? Thought so.

When the girl is of age, then she has the legal liberty to make her own choices, until, then, the laws (used to) be in the parents camp.


22 posted on 02/18/2018 7:39:45 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Tax-chick

What other pathologies or general bad decisions should parents go along with in order to prevent their children’s feeling rejected? Or to put it another way, what should parents NOT support and facilitate? Anything?


No, you didn’t really understand what I was attempting to say.

I said they didn’t play chess well with their decision. Of course they were correct. And if the child were 15, they probably chose correctly, I hope. But with the child being months away from making all of her own decisions anyway, they thought short term and “this is what I believe” took priority for them over long term connection to their brain damaged child who is going to need strong, loving parents to help her (or him, I don’t care which gender, not the point right now) get through the gauntlet of the psych and pop communities urging transition as the only right treatment for gender dysphoria.

Smarter was probably to keep the child with them and go along with what the child wanted to do at 18. Maybe slow down the process, maybe explain some truths to her. That only half the people who transition are at all happier. How suicide rates go up post transition if you’re not in the 50% that feels it worked. Yes, go along with it slowly, keeping her close and adding, drop by drop, some truths about her condition, slipping them in alongside all the BS she will be getting from the transition Industry. My opinion, they chose not the best solution for the long term happiness of their child.


23 posted on 02/18/2018 7:47:32 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Tax-chick

“Or to put it another way, what should parents NOT support and facilitate? Anything?”

Giving the child smokes (tobacco verboten, weed/crack is fine).
Belief in God (highly frowned upon)
Choosing life over abortion

Essentially, discourage cigarettes to your kids at all cost, but if your son wants to chop his penis off to feel more like a girl, be encouraging.


24 posted on 02/18/2018 7:53:03 PM PST by LeoTDB69
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To: marshmallow

This LIEberal sick world has poisoned the minds of young kids.
Look how many are confused and want to ‘transgender’ or claim gay or lesbianism? Unheard of in previous generations to this level of perverted insanity also sanctioned virtually wholesale in the legal realm.


25 posted on 02/18/2018 7:56:31 PM PST by tflabo (Varmints)
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To: Yaelle

I still don’t see how the parents could encourage their daughter to make wise choices about medical treatment by facilitating - and presumably paying for - medical treatment they believe is counterproductive.


26 posted on 02/19/2018 3:42:35 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Tax-chick

Parents are Christians, and believe the Bible, and what God says are abominations. Here is one scripture reference:

Deuteronomy 22:5 5A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.


27 posted on 02/19/2018 3:56:02 AM PST by Ambrosia
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To: Ambrosia

That’s fine, but not really relevant. Suppose they were atheists, and they had no issues with their daughter’s dressing in jeans and a t-shirt, getting a short haircut, and calling herself “Chris” or “Taylor.” They could still, just using their practical judgment, believe that a teenaged girl’s being given male hormones would be harmful to her.


28 posted on 02/19/2018 7:46:31 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Tax-chick

True. However I don’t think Bible was speaking about way we have unisex clothing today, in form of T-shirts or jeans.

I believe he was addressing cross-dressing for sexual purposes...or changing sexual identities. Society has NO BUSINESS promoting or accepting deviant life styles, yet we have Judges telling people how to run bakeries. SAD!

There are birth defects of both sexes being present that I think are parents responsibility to deal with, through prayer, etc.


29 posted on 02/19/2018 7:52:48 AM PST by Ambrosia
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To: Ambrosia

I agree. My point was that the situation could be viewed purely as a health decision, without any religious background.


30 posted on 02/19/2018 7:56:43 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Tax-chick

Oh, I didn’t say paying for.

It was just my opinion that they could have had her stay with them because they love her, that they were there for her, that they didn’t agree with transitioning but they would love her. Then allow it, no paying for it, and keep her close, and slowly slip some words of alternative treatments or their deeply held beliefs, bit by bit, week by week, month by month. I believe to have the support IN GENERAL of the two people who love you the most could make a long term difference in her eventual healing or peace with her condition.


31 posted on 02/19/2018 3:28:32 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

If she’s a minor in their custody, and they are not indigent, they have no choice but to pay for it. To take a healthy, female body and wreck it in support of a delusion. If she claimed her arm was an alien lizard appendage, should they arrange the amputation?


32 posted on 02/19/2018 3:47:51 PM PST by Tax-chick ("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: marshmallow

God has abandoned us.


33 posted on 02/19/2018 3:52:42 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Tax-chick

How could you have no choice not to pay for it? That is as insane as forcing people to buy insurance.

If this is true, we need other therapies ASAP As alternatives to transitioning surgically or hormonal therapy.


34 posted on 02/19/2018 7:24:34 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Under a standard insurance policy, the “responsible party” - the employed adult - is liable for all medical care received by covered dependents. The adult also has to give consent for treatment, normally. Obviously, that’s the sticking point here: the parents would not consent, so custody of the minor was tranferred to someone who would.

Unclear who’s paying in this situation, but it’s probably the taxpayer.


35 posted on 02/20/2018 3:18:53 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The societal moronization ... is profound and terrifying." ~Mark Steyn)
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