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1 posted on 02/13/2018 7:00:09 AM PST by Gamecock
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Ping!


2 posted on 02/13/2018 7:00:47 AM PST by Gamecock (The greatest threat to humanity is not "out there" but "in here" in the recesses of the soul. TK)
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James 5:16 KJV Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.


7 posted on 02/13/2018 7:32:23 AM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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Organized religion ... “how” you pray is more important than anything else ... for instance content and sincerity?


10 posted on 02/13/2018 8:03:39 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for!)
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What if you’re in the throes of sin and you pray to God for help?

Calvin presupposes that you have to be perfect or near perfect for God to hear you. Is that a correct understanding?

Yet God never abandons us. He’s always looking for us. He’s always with us, even if we’re eating out of a pig trough.


11 posted on 02/13/2018 8:04:19 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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The Death, Burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, believed in, gives us “boldness and access” to the Father. That’s the believers firm foundation. We can grow and mature in this, but there is NO separation any more due to sin. We “are accepted in the Beloved”.

I got the above from Paul, not Calvin:

“In Him and through faith in Him we may enter God’s presence with boldness and confidence.”—Ephesians 3:12

“...the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.”—Ephesians 1:6

In Him. By Him.


12 posted on 02/13/2018 8:11:27 AM PST by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: Gamecock

That’s my point ... but we need “rules” for this?


16 posted on 02/13/2018 9:00:21 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for!)
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To: Gamecock

I hope you’ll tolerate a question from a Catholic.

It might help to define what Calvin means when he says that God closes his ears to the prayers of the wicked. Who is “wicked?” If faith is the instrument of our salvation (even Catholics believe that much), isn’t the mere act of praying (presuming, of course, that it is sincere) a sign of faith? If by “wicked” one means “one behaves wickedly,” and “prayer” shall be understood as prayer in deference to God’s will, wouldn’t the true prayer of the wicked be deliverance from wickedness and therefore it would be heard?

Or does Calvin precisely mean that God does not hear the insincere nor self-seeking prayer?


19 posted on 02/13/2018 9:31:12 AM PST by dangus
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Jesus gave us the perfect prayer. I guess there's praying and then there's recital by rote - kind of like folks doing rosaries for "penance" - as a kid, I remember rushing through them to get my "punishment" over with.

Today I count, "God please help me", as one of my most heartfelt and effective prayers - He knows what I need versus what I would like and I trust Him to do as He will.

20 posted on 02/13/2018 9:35:40 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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