[ADSUM]

Your comment: “She sinned. I don’t need to prove that! I don’t need to prove you’ve sinned. God says so.”

So your saying that God allowed His only begotten “sinless” son to be born and raised by a “sinful” Mother?

Even Martin Luther believed that Mary had received special graces from God, professing in a 1527 sermon:

It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary’s soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God’s gifts, receiving a pure soul (On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God).

I see that your lack of knowledge of God allows you to be fooled by your man-made religion.

Hail Mary Full of Grace. The Lord is with you.

The Blessed Mother who is also our spiritual Mother was obedient to the will of God!

[Elsie]

So your saying that God allowed His only begotten “sinless” son to be born and raised by a “sinful” Mother?

Ah; Grasshopper!

You are finally catching on!

Goes against hundreds of years of (let's be kind) teaching; doesn't it.

[ealgeone]

So your saying that God allowed His only begotten “sinless” son to be born and raised by a “sinful” Mother?

You're saying Joseph had no part whatsoever in raising Jesus????

The Roman Catholic is so blind due to their worship of Mary.

[Elsie]

I see that your lack of knowledge of God allows you to be fooled by your man-made religion.

Why do you NOT believe the Book that your chosen religion compiled; so long ago?

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^{John 18:37}

(NKJV)^[10]

 

Pilate therefore said to Him, “Are You a king then?”

Jesus answered, “You say rightly that I am a king.

For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world,

that I should bear witness to the truth.

Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.”

 

 

[Ken Regis]

“I see that your lack of knowledge of God allows ...”

Even thought there’s so much low-hanging fruit to choose, I try not to “make it personal.”

You should be worshipping Enoch - there’s no record of his sin either. We should all try to be consistent.

[metmom]

So your saying that God allowed His only begotten “sinless” son to be born and raised by a “sinful” Mother?

YES!

Why not?

And why did you put "sinless" in quotes as if it were not a true fact but only a supposition?

Don't you believe that Jesus was sinless?

[boatbums]

"It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary's soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God's gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin" (Sermon: "On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God," 1527")

This quote is frequently cited on Roman Catholic web pages attempting to prove Luther’s lifelong belief in Mary’s immaculate conception. Unfortunately, the quote is almost impossible to track down. The sermon is not included in the English edition of Luther’s Works, and rarely will Roman Catholic web sites give any documentation other than, “Sermon: ‘On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God.’” The exception has been Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong. Up until the posting of this paper, Mr. Armstrong cited the above quote from the work of Hartmann Grisar’s book, Luther Vol. IV. Grisar cites the source as “Werke,” Erl. Ed., 15 Page 58. Of the quote he says,

“The sermon was taken down in notes and published with Luther’s approval. The same statements concerning the immaculate conception still remain in a printed edition published in 1529, but in later editions which appeared during Luther’s lifetime they disappear.”

The reason for their disappearance is that as Luther’s Christo-centric theology developed, aspects of Luther’s Mariology were abandoned. Grisar recognizes this. In regards to the Luther quote in question, Grisar says,

“As Luther’s intellectual and ethical development progressed we cannot naturally expect the sublime picture of the pure Mother of God, the type of virginity, of the spirit of sacrifice and of sanctity to furnish any great attraction for him, and as a matter of fact such statements as the above are no longer met with in his later works.”

For a much fuller treatment of Luther’s view of the Immaculate Conception, please see my “Luther’s Theology of Mary: A Response To Dave Armstrong” found on this website. (https://web.archive.org/web/20140803220104/http://tquid.sharpens.org/luther_mary1.htm

[Iscool]

So your saying that God allowed His only begotten “sinless” son to be born and raised by a “sinful” Mother?

Absolutely...If you'd pay more attention to what God told us in his scriptures instead of listening to the propaganda from the Catholic religion you'd know that Jesus had to have at least one parent who was a sinner like the rest of us...

Jesus not only looked like a human, he had human flesh and bones...And he had a human nature as well...Jesus chose to be sinless, not that he was incapable of sinning...