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To: JosephJames
There are several explanations why Bergoglio was not elected canonically and thus is the false pope, the false prophet, the second beast of the Book of Revelations.

According to you!!!

Sound familiar?

I actually have no problem with what you say. I agree that Bergoglio is a fake, phony and fraud. Where we differ is that I also believe that Bergoglio is just a product of Vatican II.

306 posted on 12/31/2017 3:21:33 PM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv

How many people and groups in the last 2000 years have made similar statements: “Vatican II contradicts previous Magisterium”.
Each one of these people or groups feel they have it right, but according to what criteria? According to their intelligence and human wisdom?
In the end where is the authority on earth to free us from our own subjectivism and relativism inherent in Original Sin?
As the Catholic Church teaches, quoted in the article:
The Second Vatican Council also explains that a person born into a protestant family is not automatically culpable of being outside the one visible Church that Christ founded, the Catholic Church, and that such a person can correspond with the grace of God to live the Gospel better than many baptized Catholics. Just as grace and truth can subsist anywhere (wherever the Spirit blows), so too, grace and truth can subsist in other churches. “Nevertheless, many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside its visible confines. … Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, and visible elements too. All of these, which come from Christ and lead back to Christ, belong by right to the one Church of Christ” (Unitatis Redintegratio, no. 3; http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html. Visit: “Ecclesiology of the Catholic Church”; http://schis-trad.blogspot.it/2008/03/ecclesiology-of-vcii.html).
It is not by chance that one finds this one Church that Christ founded with the guarantee to offer those of good will the guidance needed to find the truth, in a world full of confusion sowed by Satan, the truth (Jn 14:6) which sets us free (Jn 8:32), now and for all eternity.


312 posted on 01/01/2018 4:47:03 AM PST by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: piusv
I agree that Bergoglio is a fake, phony and fraud.

So?

The system that selected him hasn't changed since; let's see...


 


Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

313 posted on 01/01/2018 5:37:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: piusv

You write: According to you!!!
But did you have the courage to check out the references that I offered??? Or do we only want to invent the truth and reality according to ourselves without looking at any documents that are not in agreement with how we want the truth and how we want reality, which is what the great majority of people do today?
Pope Benedict XVI Forced To Resign
http://spir-food.blogspot.it/2017/01/pope-benedict-xvi-force-to-resign.html
https://josephdwight.wordpress.com/2017/01/27/pope-benedict-xvi-force-to-resign/
https://www.scribd.com/document/337710136/Pope-Benedict-XVI-Force-To-Resign
In Italian, regarding the non canonical election of Bergoglio:
L’anticipazione Della Premessa Di “NON E’ Francesco” E Delle Prime Pagine Del Capitolo Sul Conclave Del 2013
http://www.antoniosocci.com/lanticipazione-della-premessa-di-non-e-francesco-e-delle-prime-pagine-del-capitolo-sul-conclave-del-2013/
Anche I Bergogliani Sono Ormai Sconcertati Da Bergoglio (LA Mia Risposta Alla Canonista Sull’invalidita’ Del Conclave 2013)
http://www.antoniosocci.com/anche-bergogliani-sono-ormai-sconcertati-da-bergoglio-la-mia-risposta-alla-canonista-sullinvalidita-del-conclave-2013/
Come Sara’ Il Giubileo (MENTRE Si Scoprono Due Nuove Irregolarita’ Del Conclave)
www.antoniosocci.com/come-sara-il-giubileo-mentre-si-scoprono-due-nuove-irregolarita-del-conclave/


318 posted on 01/01/2018 9:31:14 AM PST by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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