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And I have no clue why you re-quoted the part of revelation where the angel / messenger chides John for bowing to him because they are basically equals.

No clue?

I highlighted the word this

It seems to me a lot of NON-biblical info is being used trying to justify certain nonessential(?) beliefs.

Further more; I do not see in the text were the angel makes a claim to be EQUAL with John.

He(it?) merely said, "... I am thy fellowservant..."

Good grief, I really think we have more than just theological differences.

1) I'm flabbergasted that you can read Gen 6:4 and not understand the extremely clear cause and effect. It's not a matter of believing this or that about the nature or role of giants/nephilim. Just of understanding the coherence of one single sentence (not two entirely different subjects) to easily note that whatever you think they were, their existence came about due to the hookup between sons of God (also, regardless who/what you think these are) and daughters of men. The word when in this case is absolutely NOT confusingly casual as you imply. It is causal.

2) I have no idea what 'H2' is beyond a vehicle Arnold Schwarzenegger used to drive. You seem to be implying that the book of Ezekiel is the stuff of 'cultish' 'fantasy'. I only mentioned the cherubims (a special type of angel) as an example of creations of God clearly (very clearly) not of earth, but at least once on the earth. In other words, alien to earth, at least in this age.

3) I'm still clueless on what your highlight of the single word 'this' has to do with anything. Also, you re-quote the part where the angel (messenger) tells John that he is 'thy fellowservant', but you conveniently leave out the 'and of thy brethren the prophets' part. Which, again, very clearly indicates the messenger (translated 'angel') is NOT some type of creation which is entirely separate from us/John.

I'd almost like to assert that you are trolling me, but I resisting using that word as a verb - unless I'm fishing.

Again, this is why I hate scripture poker between fellow believers in Christ. You're probably a decent person, but your illogical methods of digesting text boggles my mind.

I fold.

Take the pot (and your unnecessarily confusing multiple replies per my single postings) and go celebrate.