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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^
| November 28, 2017
| Julia Meloni
Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide
The reality of the apostasy of faith in our time rightly and profoundly frightens us, said Cardinal Burke in honor of Fatimas centenary.
In 1903, Pope St. Pius X declared himself terrified by humanitys self-destructive apostasy from God: For behold they that go far from Thee shall perish (Ps. 72:27). How much more daunting, said Cardinal Burke, is todays widespread apostasy.
In 1910, St. Pius X condemned the movement for a One-World Church without dogmas, hierarchy, or curb for the passionsa church which, under the pretext of freedom, would impose legalized cunning and force. How much more, said Cardinal Burke, do todays movements for a single government of the world and certain movements with the Church herself disregard sin and salvation?
In Pascendi, St. Pius X named the trajectory toward the annihilation of all religion: The first step
was taken by Protestantism; the second
by [the heresy of] Modernism; the next will plunge headlong into atheism.
So let us, said Cardinal Burke, heed Fatimas call for prayer, penance, and reparation. Let us be agents of the triumph of Marys Immaculate Heart.
A few weeks after that speech, the Vatican announced its shining tribute to the Protestant revolution: a golden stamp with Luther and Melanchthon at the foot of the cross, triumphantly supplanting the Blessed Virgin and St. John.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider has asked how the Vatican can call Luther a witness to the gospel when he called the Mass
a blasphemy and the papacy an invention of Satan. The signatories of the filial correction have expressed wonderment and sorrow at a statue of Luther in the Vaticanand documented the affinity between Luthers ideas on law, justification, and marriage and Pope Franciss statements.
At a 2016 joint commemoration of the Protestant revolution, Pope Francis expressed joy for its myriad gifts. He and pro-abortion Lutherans with female clergy jointly declared that what unites us is greater than what divides us. Together they raise[d] their voices against violence. They prayed for the conversion of those who exploit the earth. They declared the goal of receiving the Eucharist at one table to express their full unity.
In Martin Luther: An Ecumenical Perspective, Cardinal Kasper confirms that the excommunicated, apostate monk is now a common church father, a new St. Francis of Assisi. This prophet of the new evangelization was forced into calling the pope the Antichrist after his call for repentance was not heard. But Kasper finds ecumenical hope in Luthers statement that he would
kiss the feet of a pope who allows and acknowledges his gospel.
Kasper says Pope Franciss Evangelii Gaudium, without mentioning him by name, makes Luthers concerns stand in the center.
So its Luthers gospel of grace and mercy behind, apparently, the high disdain for self-absorbed promethean neopelagianis[ts] plagued by a soundness of doctrine thats narcissistic and authoritarian (EG 94).
So its Lutherthe bizarre protagonist of ecumenical unitybehind the demand for a conversion of the papacy that gives genuine doctrinal authority to episcopal conferences (EG 32). Sandro Magister says the pope is already creating a federation of national Churches endowed with extensive autonomy through liturgical decentralization.
So its Luther behind the demand to accept the unruly freedom of the word, which accomplishes what it wills in ways that surpass our
ways of thinking (EG 22). Kasper says Luthers faith in the self-implementation of the word of God gave him a heroic openness to the future.
Ultimately, Kaspers Luthera prophet of openness to futurity, a Catholic reformer waiting for a sympathetic popeemerges as a symbolic father for Modernisms struggle to change the Church from within. Modernism falsely claims that God evolves with historymaking truth utterly mutable. So Kasper the Modernist says dogmas can be stupid and Church structures can spring from ideology and denying the Eucharist to adulterers because of one phrase from Christ is ideological, too.
Kasper baldly calls the changeless God an offense to man:
One must deny him for mans sake, because he claims for himself the dignity and honor that belong by right to man
.
We must resist this God
also for Gods sake. He is not the true God at all, but rather a wretched idol. For a God
who is not himself history is a finite God. If we call such a being God, then for the sake of the Absolute we must become absolute atheists. Such a God springs from a rigid worldview; he is the guarantor of the status quo and the enemy of the new.
A shocking ultimatum from the man hailed as the popes theologian: either embrace a mutable God whos not an enemy of the newor profess absolute, unflinching, hardcore atheism.
Kasper says the Church must be led by a spirit that is not primarily the third divine person. That ominous spirit, says Thomas Stark, is apparently some Hegelian agent of creations self-perfection. Pope Francis, against all the sourpusses (EG 85), describes our final cause as the utopian future (EG 222). Because God wants us to be happy in this world, its no longer possible to claim that religion
exists only to prepare souls for heaven (EG 182).
But Christ said, In the world you shall have distress (Jn. 16:33). The 1907 dystopian novel The Lord of the World hauntingly imagines the travails of historys last days, when humanity has heeded Kaspers call to resist God with absolute atheism if necessary. By this point, Protestantism is dead, for men recognize at last that a supernatural religion involves an absolute authority. Those with any supernatural belief left are Catholicpersecuted by a world professing no God but man, no priest but the politician.
More and more clergy apostatize. Man has learned his own divinity. Yet Fr. Percy Franklin still adores the Eucharistic Lord, still believes that the reconciling of a soul to God is greater than the reconciling of nations. He secretly hears a dying womans confession before the real prieststhe euthanizerscome.
Her daughter-in-law, Mabel, scoffs that the new atheism has perfected Catholicism:
Do you not understand that all which Jesus Christ promised has come true, though in another way? The reign of God has really begun; but we know now who God is. You said just now you wanted the forgiveness of Sins; well, you have that; we all have it, because there is no such thing as sin. There is only Crime.
And then Communion. You used to believe that that made you a partaker of God; well, we are all partakers of God, because we are all human beings.
Mabel and the rapt multitudes ritually worship Man. God was a hideous nightmare. Their spirits swoon before a politician promising the universal brotherhood of man.
That savior of the world is the Antichrist. All must deny God or die.
For history, like the novel itself, ends not with rapturous utopia but with tribulation, apostasy, martyrdoms, and Gods triumph over the revolt of evil [in] the form of the Last Judgment (CCC 677). In the throes of his own tribulation, Fr. Franklin calls us to cling to the faith and those refuges of old:
The mass, prayer, the rosary. These first and last. The world denies their power: it is on their power that Christians must throw all their weight.
TOPICS: Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; oneworldchurch
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To: ealgeone
“Well, he probably baptized some....but the text doesn’t say he baptized them.”
On Pentecost Peter and the Apostles baptized 3,000 people. In one day. Have you forgotten that?
“The people heard it and were convicted. They believed the word and then were baptized.”
You expected something else? Even today that is how it is done for all those old enough to understand. For those too young, just as with circumcision in Judaism, it is the faith of the parents that comes first.
And St. Paul makes it clear how the forgiveness of sins comes - including in his own life as he must have told Luke - through baptism. Acts 22:16
“Cornelius and others heard and believed and received the Holy Spirit. Then they were baptized.”
Of course - and there were no Christians to baptize them until Peter came. Remember, Cornelius the centurion was a pious Jewish or Noahide believer. He was NOT a Christian in the beginning of Acts 10. Verse 22 points out, “We have come from Cornelius the centurion. He is a righteous and God-fearing man, who is respected by all the Jewish people.” There’s no way he would have been respected by all the Jews if he believed in Jesus. Now, in verse 36 it says, “You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.” The people with Cornelius knew about Jesus but that doesn’t mean they yet believed in Him. While Peter preaches to them, they become convinced and the Holy Spirit descends on them. This is a second Pentecost and in one way is even greater than the first for it shows that the Gentiles are invited by Christ as well. And then they are baptized. And? At other times, people have faith and are baptized for some time and only later receive a greater gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 8:16-17). And?
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posted on
11/28/2017 6:35:34 PM PST
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: ealgeone
“You’re majoring in the minors over the term. Roman Catholic...Roman Catholicism...it’s the same false system no matter which term you use.”
The issue is that you were proven wrong on this issue - with plenty of documentation. . . and it clearly doesn’t matter to you. Documentation apparently doesn’t matter to you. Evidence apparently doesn’t matter to you. Sources apparently don’t matter to you.
“Vlad’s Rules of Internet Debate #4...dwell in the minors trying to make a point.”
I proved you wrong then - with documentation. I proved you wrong now by simply bringing it up. And you have proved, again, that you apparently don’t care about evidence.
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posted on
11/28/2017 6:39:36 PM PST
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: vladimir998
>>The people heard it and were convicted. They believed the word and then were baptized.<<
You expected something else?
No. This shows the progression of how one becomes a Christian.
Here the Word.
Believe the Word.
Be baptized.
Even today that is how it is done for all those old enough to understand. For those too young, just as with circumcision in Judaism, it is the faith of the parents that comes first.
Not in Christianity...perhaps in Roman Catholicism.
The parents can lead the children in instructing them, teaching them, etc...but each person has to chose to believe or not.
We don't have evidence of infants being baptized in the New Testament. We do see where households were, but believing in Him was required.
Paul believed in Christ before he was baptized.
Baptism isn't what saves you....it's believing in Him.
To: vladimir998
On Pentecost Peter and the Apostles baptized 3,000 people. In one day. Have you forgotten that? To invoke one of Vlad's Rules.....the text does not say that Peter and the Apostles baptized them.
But now you've changed your argument.
In your post of 107 you said, "And yet he [Peter] then baptized them."
And before you go ballistic over the brackets as you did on another thread...When writers insert or alter words in a direct quotation, square brackets[ ]are placed around the change. The brackets, always used in pairs, enclose words intended to clarify meaning, provide a brief explanation, or to
help integrate the quote into the writers sentence. You had to be corrected on that though I doubt you remember it nor would you admit it...another of Vlad's Rules
You see...those are the silly type of word games you play with everyone but don't like it when you're held to your "standard".
But I digress. I do believe Peter and the disciples did baptized them and maybe with some help from the other believers. Who else was there to baptize them?
To: vladimir998; ealgeone
It basically gets down to this.
John 1:10-13 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
Doesn't matter how you do it or what you say. Repeating a sinner's prayer may or may not save you because it's not reciting words like an incantation but the heart.
Just like this.....
Luke 18:9-14 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.
But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, God, be merciful to me, a sinner! I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.
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posted on
11/28/2017 6:54:03 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: metmom
You seem to have overlooked the previous verses in John 20:
[22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.
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posted on
11/28/2017 6:58:53 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: vladimir998; ealgeone; aMorePerfectUnion
No one here is claiming you can. Yup, they do. The Catholic church does.
They tell us that you have to be baptized to be saved.
But then that's not enough. You also have to take communion to be saved.
But that's still not enough. You must go to confession.
And then you have to do corporeal works of mercy, however someone randomly decides to define that.
And then you have to be Catholic.
And in submission to the pope. (ooops, that rules out a lot of Catholics right now).
And so there you have it, the Hamster Wheel of Works.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:06:00 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: ebb tide
No, like “sacred tradition” where the Catholic church makes up stuff that supports their doctrine, like the perpetual virginity of Mary, the immaculate conception, the assumption of Mary, etc, ad nauseum.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:09:17 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: metmom
So you believe in Luther's sola scriptura and sola fides, yet reject tradition?
[14] Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle. Thessalonians; Chapter 2.
I'll stick with the Bible and reject the heretic, Luther. It's quite easy.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:20:42 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: metmom
And so there you have it, the Hamster Wheel of Works.
***
You forgot the circus music.
Do do dodododo do do do do~
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:21:17 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: ebb tide
I’ll stick with the Bible
***
LOL
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:22:25 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: ebb tide
No, but God promises to forgive us if we confess and I'm holding to that. Not what the Catholic church claims Jesus' words "really" mean.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
God overrules any human priest any day of the week.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:24:48 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: ebb tide
So you believe in Luther's sola scriptura and sola fides, yet reject tradition? Needs a fix...
So you believe in Luther's sola scriptura and sola fides, yet reject tradition?
Absolutely.
Nothing necessary for salvation or Christian maturity is found outside the Scripture.
Salvation comes from faith, as it always has.
Until you can prove that any tradition came from the Apostles, we don't even know which century it began.
To: Luircin
It was Luther who threw out entire books of the Bible that weren’t to his liking.
Not I.
Luther was the first cherry-picker.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:28:11 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: metmom
I see.
Another cherry-picker.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:29:42 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: metmom; ebb tide
And so there you have it, the Hamster Wheel of Works.
ebb, please bro, get off the wheel. You aren't getting anywhere.
To: aMorePerfectUnion
Until you can prove that any tradition came from the Apostles, we don't even know which century it began.What an absurd statement. You might as well be a Muslim.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:32:32 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
What an absurd statement. Simply your assertion.
Please post the Official List of Apostolic Traditions, which you cannot.
In other words, your assertion is the absurdity, bro.
To: aMorePerfectUnion
Please post the Official List of Apostolic Traditions, which you cannot. Been asked for many times over the years and have not got an answer nor how they are sure the traditions were actually taught by the apostles and have been passed down faithfully through all these centuries.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:39:19 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: aMorePerfectUnion
Please post the Official List of Apostolic Traditions, which you cannot.Look up the Apostles Creed.
That would be a good start for you.
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posted on
11/28/2017 7:40:54 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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