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Cardinal Says Pope Francis Inspired Him to Get ‘Creative’ in Liturgy, Lets Lay People Read Gospel
LifeSite News ^ | 11/13/17 | Lisa Bourne

Posted on 11/18/2017 5:44:19 PM PST by marshmallow

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1 posted on 11/18/2017 5:44:19 PM PST by marshmallow
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Cardinal John Dew called for churches to divert from liturgical protocol of the Gospel reading conducted by ordained clergy with a Lectio Divina reading of the day’s Gospel performed by a layperson.

Oh the horrors....a layperson reading the Bible at church. /sarc

2 posted on 11/18/2017 5:48:51 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: marshmallow

Reading from the Bible is something all should be doing.


3 posted on 11/18/2017 5:49:24 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ealgeone

The issue isn’t reading Scripture, but I think you know that.

Nice try.


4 posted on 11/18/2017 6:28:24 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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Read what I wrote from the article......a layperson is doing this. And the harm is what? Only a priest can do this??


5 posted on 11/18/2017 6:39:20 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: marshmallow

It is the “spirit of Vatican II” all over again.


6 posted on 11/18/2017 6:49:21 PM PST by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: ealgeone

A deacon, if you have one, if you don’t, a priest, with a bishop being the last resort.


7 posted on 11/18/2017 7:01:41 PM PST by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: marshmallow

**Lets Lay People Read Gospel**

Nope!


8 posted on 11/18/2017 7:18:21 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ealgeone

At Catholic Masses, only priests or deacons are supposed to read the Gospel readings (those from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), as opposed to the Old Testament readings and the NT Epistles or Book of Revelations.

If you are not Catholic, or are Catholic but don’t know or care about the rules, asking questions is fine. Asking sneering questions, on the other hand, is obnoxious. I don’t do that when it comes to other religions.


9 posted on 11/18/2017 7:21:21 PM PST by utahagen (but but)
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To: Salvation

What is the harm in a regular person reading from Scripture in church?


10 posted on 11/18/2017 7:36:03 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: utahagen

What is the harm in a regular person reading the Scripture in church?


11 posted on 11/18/2017 7:36:34 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

The Gospel is proclaimed by an ordained deacon or priest.


12 posted on 11/18/2017 7:43:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I can only imagine what the rationale behind that is.


13 posted on 11/18/2017 7:44:49 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Salvation

But why can’t a regular person proclaim the Gospel??


14 posted on 11/18/2017 7:45:46 PM PST by ealgeone
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“Harm” isn’t really the issue. In the Catholic and Orthodox Churches, the guidelines — the correct word may be “rubrics”, but I am unsure about that — are strict about who should read the Gospel. The Gospels — again, readings from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John — are to be read by Priests (or bishops, etc.) or deacons, not by nuns or laypeople. The issue isn’t “harm”. These rules are decided or changed by the Vatican/Councils, not by fiat of individual Cardinals or bishops. Of course, when individual bishops do whatever they please, non-Catholics and Catholics who either don’t know the rules or resent them, ask, “What’s the big deal?” Well, I could ask what difference it makes if an Orthodox Jew eats a ham sandwich...but I wouldn’t ask that, because I understand that there is a logic underlying rules and there is a process to changing rules that make the rules more complicated than just whether one person should be “allowed” to chomp on a ham sandwich.


15 posted on 11/18/2017 7:46:14 PM PST by utahagen (but but)
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To: ealgeone

They aren’t an ordained deacon or a priest.

End of conversation.


16 posted on 11/18/2017 7:49:38 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“The Gospel is proclaimed by an ordained deacon or priest.”

The Gospel is proclaimed by everything in the universe.

L


17 posted on 11/18/2017 7:50:12 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: utahagen
There are no rules in Scripture about who can and cannot read them in public.

Seems Roman Catholicism has set up yet another "tradition" not substantiated in Scripture.

Roman Catholicism can do what it wants...it's just there is no Scriptural prohibition against a regular person reading the texts aloud in church.

18 posted on 11/18/2017 7:52:17 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
They aren’t an ordained deacon or a priest. End of conversation.

So?

What's the requirement that someone has to be ordained to read a text?

Does it make the reading of the text better if the person is ordained?

19 posted on 11/18/2017 7:53:32 PM PST by ealgeone
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The Gospel is proclaimed by everything in the universe. L

Except it seems in Roman Catholic churches and only be a "select few".

20 posted on 11/18/2017 7:54:35 PM PST by ealgeone
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