Posted on 11/02/2017 8:03:59 AM PDT by Salvation
Monsignor Pope Ping!
Thank-you for excellent posting. God Bless.
I believe parishes are becoming more mixed as far as race is concerned.
Too bad the bishops can’t just say that we’re all descended from Adam and Eve. After all, to them Adam and Eve are just “myths.”
Yes, and in a special way, in the northeast, with parish closures and mergers, that will happen more.
Got to remember that anything taken in the literally is taken as. “Bible-believing Protestant”
Interestingly, the noted atheist Ayn Rand had virtually the same opinion on Racism:
Racism...is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry.
Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men.
And yet, God-fearing men and women of (seemingly) good character and atheists of Antifa-stock devolve into name-calling. In the process, they become two sides of the same sinful coin.
I don't want to make this a political thread, but one of the key and many times unsung elements of Trump and Deplorables, is that the coalition he put together has the potential to unite heretofore un-united individuals. Minorities of all stripes (blacks, hispanics, gays), union guys, and others used by the statists for decades suddenly seem willing to jump on the Trump Train.
While some may chafe at the thought of working alongside some of these masses, commentary like that from Msg. Pope raise my hopes that we see deeper integration, more communion, and less reactionary hostility.
I was a roman catholic as a child. I got some sacrament or other. With it came a copy of the new testament, but no Five Books of Moses. I wonder why.
I believe that the Catholic Church embraced Protestant-created higher criticism (and evolution) because they undermined the truth of the Bible and thus undercut the Protestant claim of Biblical sufficiency (which claim is false, btw, as the Written Torah cannot be understood apart from the Oral Torah.) Now in order to be Catholic one simply must be a higher critic and evolutionist, or else face charges of being crypto-Protestant. On top of this is the lie that the Catholic (and Orthodox, and other ancient) churches in fact never accepted the truth of Genesis at all, and that the historical accuracy of Genesis 1-11 is a creation of nineteenth century evangelicals.
The hardest to take of Catholic (and other) hypocrisy is the fact that while they subject Genesis to uniformitarian scientific critique, they exempt the "new testament" with its equally impossible, unscientific claims such as "real presence," resurrection from the dead, multiplication of loaves and fishes, and magical virgins who give birth to babies without the participation of a human father and whose child magically passes through the mother's side to be born so her hymen would remain intact. All this is approved by their "scientists" and "intellectuals" but only inborn trailer trash could possibly believe in the Six Days of Creation, the Flood, or the Tower of Babel.
They disgust me.
Got to remember that anything taken in the literally is taken as. “Bible-believing Protestant CHRISTIAN”
"Wherever there is injustice, you will find us.
Wherever there is suffering, we'll be there!
Where there are corrections needed, we'll be there.Wherever liberty is threatened, you will find... The Three Amigos!
A perception of the bishops.
Please see post number 7. Thank-you!
Why did you cross that out?
All Christians take God at His Word.
He does not distinguish among denominations.
He only sees those that have come to saving faith and those who have not.
This is a too-common misconception. The Catholic Church teaches that the entire human race is descended from that one original couple: this dogma is called Monogenism.
Pope Pius XII addressed this in the 1950 encyclical Humani Generis. He said that it was “in no way apparent” how to reconcile polygenism (multiple original ancestors as in evolution) with divine revelation. Here is the full quote:
When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents.Now it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which, through generation, is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own.
The Catholic Church teaches the literal existence of a literal couple, Adm and Eve, as the first parents of the human race.
And by the way, 50+ years ago my entire Catholic Confirmation class was required to each own a copy of the whole Bible, all 73 books. Do you have that?
This can be remedied. Oh, how welcome you would be in my RCIA class! Come on in!
Yes, I DO HAVE many Catholic Bibles, both the older versions and the newest versions. I collect Bibles and rosaries. Not only do I have the Catholic 73 books Bibles, but have 3 Protestant Bibles, one NIV, one NKJV, and one large size Living Bible. Have one Orthodox Bible which has 81 books.
Haven't you heard? Doctrine has "developed." Just as with the historical truth of Genesis 1-11, "we now know" that Pius' views as expressed in HG were naive and pre-scientific.
Besides, whatever HG may say, the fact remains that 99.99999% of all Catholic/Orthodox bishops regard them as myths. An "official belief" that isn't actually believed is a poor argument.
Also, I notice that you don't argue for the total historicity of all of Genesis 1-11. So you then regard the Flood and Dispersal of Nations as a primitive myth, just as your bishops do with Adam and Eve? How do you know the "miracles" of the NT actually happened? Maybe they're hooey as well.
This can be remedied. Oh, how welcome you would be in my RCIA class! Come on in!
Yeah, Croatian! You'd learn that the Hebrew Bible was written by primitive savages who didn't understand how the world operates and that the Holy Torah is a splice of a collection of Babylonian and Canaanite myths!
Then they'd tell you that every alleged science-contradicting miracle in the "new testament" actually happened, because they aren't "stupid" like the miracles of the "old testament!"
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