“You really don’t buy what you wrote do you??”
Indulgences were never authorized to be sold by the Church. NEVER.
“I give the church money, they give an indulgence.”
No. You DONATED money to an indulgence preacher. And that was usually after confession, and permission from your parish priest. If you did all that was required for the indulgence, it was given to you. EVEN IF YOU HAD NO MONEY TO DONATE. The poor were given the indulgence even if they had no donation. That shows there were no sales authorized by the Church. If they were sales, then money would be a necessity.
“Sure sounds like a buy-sell contract to you.”
Not to me. 1) There was more involved than money. 2) The money was clearly a donation. 3) The indulgence was given to the poor even though they had no money. Hence, no sale.
“You should go write speeches for Bill and Hillary.”
Well, since you’re the one who is saying something that is untrue and nonsensical you’re a much better candidate for that role. Follow your programming now.
You keep believing that as a good catholic. Denial must be a wonderful thing. History however understands what Leo did.
Buying and selling by any other name is still buying and selling.
It’s just a game of semantics to call it a *donation* for which you got an indulgence for free.
Just like televangelists who offer to send you one of their CD’s or books for *free* when you make a *donation* of $25.
A scam by any other name is still a scam, which is what indulgences were cause nobody can buy salvation or forgiveness with money.