[Salvation]

I’m wondering if this is true or not????

[freedomjusticeruleoflaw]

This will be overturned easily.

[Skywise]

Idiots - the law was enacted because taxation of churches is forbidden under the first amendment.

Of course the bigoted hate group FFRA intentionally lies about that.

[Reno89519]

Why was it tax-free? Isn’t this income just like everyone else in the world deals with? Sorry, while I haven’t read the ruling, seems fair to me to treat these benefits as income since the do that with everyone else.

[stinkerpot65]

Every liberal is a violent totalitarian thug.

[Amendment10]

If I understand the judge's decision correctly, consider that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to tax INTRAstate housing allowance for anybody imo, such a federal tax arguably stolen state revenues for those states that establish such a tax.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."—Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.



So the referenced federal judge is helping to unconstitutionally expand the already unconstitutionally big federal government’s powers imo.

Possibly the best way for Pres. Trump to overhaul the tax code is to lead the states to repeal the ill-conceived 17th Amendment, that amendment effectively repealing the whole Constitution imo.

Patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of state sovereignty-respecting, Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the primary ballots and send these candidate patriot lawmakers to DC on election day 2018.

[Honest Nigerian]

I have always felt this was a very strange rule. I am aware of the history and application of the law, and there are some real interesting court cases out there. I think Rick Warren (Saddleback Church in California) prevailed in a case against the IRS in 1999 or 2000; thing went all the way to the Supreme Court. That case was on the size of his housing allowance.
Anyway, just remember this: “everyone’s a victim”. That means the clergy might become a victim since they (could) get this huge tax break taken away from them. Or maybe, you and I are the victims, because we DON”T get to take a big chunk of our income as a tax-free housing allowance.
The real bottom line is that the entire tax code is an ugly mess that hurts the majority of taxpayers, and rewards a bunch of special interest groups.
MAGA

[RitaOK]

Given the politicalization, the silence and the abdication of duty, by “the clergy”, my sympathies are somewhat dulled.

So many follow Bergoglio, with glee.

Sadly, I understand that the hand full of good bishops are affected, as well as those impoverished priests who are still fighting the Good Fight on a shoe string. God reward them.

[mrsmith]

“Judge Barbara Crabb ruled in favor of Madison’s Freedom from Religion Foundation, which said the federal tax break discriminates against secular persons.
Crabb issued the same ruling in 2013, but the federal appeals court in Chicago later threw it out, saying the foundation was not directly affected and had no legal standing to file suit. That prompted the foundation to ask the IRS for the tax benefit. When it was turned down, it filed the current lawsuit.”
https://www.wrn.com/2017/10/federal-judge-finds-housing-allowances-for-clergy-unconstitutional/

Satan’s motto: “Never give up!”

[11th_VA]

If they take a mortgage deduction like most Americans, wouldn’t seem to be much of a difference.

[so_real]

The citizens of Wisconsin recognize the fruits of the labors of Christian clergy produce better citizens for our state. Christian citizens pay their taxes, obey the laws, grow the economy, raise mindful children, volunteer their time, etc, etc, etc. Christian citizens make the state stronger, cleaner, and safer as just a few of many intangible benefits. Our forefathers recognized these fruits grown on the shoestring budgets of the Christian clergy, and chose to legally provide the Christian clergy with the gift of tax exemption in law to ease financial burden and to encourage the Christian clergy to continue producing good citizens.

Have we given up the right to gift who we will with our tax dollars in our state? No. Have the laws which grant tax exemption in our state been repealed? No. Have we executed new law which authorizes the judiciary to legislate from the bench? No.

This liberal piece of bat-guano judge needs to be retired.

[piasa]

FFRF is begging for it. Let’s pray for them to get everything they deserve in spades.

[Mr Rogers]

Congress gives all sorts of tax breaks. Someone who gives to a “green” company might get a tax break that doesn’t go to someone who does not. Build a building in one location and you get a tax break. Build it 1/2 mile away and you will not. Families get HUGE tax breaks compared to single people. Tax breaks for college students. For those with kids in child care. Huge bonuses - not refunds, but additional money added on - for lower-income working people. But only if they meet certain age requirements, and the rewards are vastly greater for a married couple with kids. And of course, those with more income are taxed vastly different from those with less.

Part of the basic theory of tax law is that all your money belongs to the government unless the government decides not to take it, and that the government can allow anyone to keep more of it if the government feels it is beneficial.

I doubt this decision will stand.