Posted on 10/06/2017 4:09:44 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Prayers sent for these lovely girls and this dreadful situation.
The mother wants progressive street cred of having a transgender child. Unfortunately it’s become the in thing. That said, autistic folks are more likely to have gender confusion. They just aren’t handling it correctly.
Well stated. Stand for the truth and your right to your position. The girl may be irritated by your refusal to accommodate her perverse thought process, bro and SIL may swear at you etc, but someday, the girl may realize that you spoke the truth in love.
“And God made them male and female, male and female made He them”
“You are fearfully and wonderfully made”
And of course, the first few chapters of the book of Paul to the Romans.... Hard reading for folks treading on this quick sand, maybe drop that reference in the girls ear before the fires start, telling her that you love her and care for her and will always be available for her.....
I must go for my mother’s sake. She has dementia- psychosis full blown depending on the day. And Brother has the nerve to insist she now call her grand daughter a grandson. They are adding to her already over-burdened state of anxiety and confusion. They don’t give a damn.
Poor mom telephones friends that have been dead for 20+ years and has lost much of her short term and working memory. She relies on and me and my family for everything. Sometime soon, she will no longer remember my name or recognize us, but that’s okay.
My SIL & brother hate everything I believe and hold to be true. I loathe their liberalism. f we did not share a common mother and have children that are cousins, there would be no reason to ever meet again.
Speak the truth. She is a girl. Going along with a delusion does not cure it but reinforces it. Do not go along with the lies.
Share the truth with everyone, like the Wall Street Journal article by Dr. Paul McHugh.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
Discuss WHY she would have this impulse. Is she a tomboy and told that those are signs she’s a boy? Cultivate those interests without the delusion. Does a parent wish they had a boy and are pushing her in this direction both to “have a son” and / or get social activist points?
Is she autistic spectrum? Girls with Aspsbergers are being diagnosed as transgender at several times the rate of anyone else because their mindsets are more toward the mechanical and technical, less social. Not feminine enough in behavior and empathy? Instead of saying tomboy or Aspberger, they say you ARE a boy. And children in that mental frame are susceptible because they don’t know how to argue it and tend to go with the expert unless they ARE the expert in a topic.
Support the normal daughter in this, and back her up when she feels pressured to go along with the delusion. Love on her, let her talk to you. You’ll probably learn a lot of horrifying family dynamics that may be driving this, the same way kids act out when there is a family dispute.
There are identical twins where one is schizophrenic and the other isn’t. There can be genetic tendencies to mental illness but lack the environmental or social exposures to trigger it.
Tell your brother that this is child abuse. Be honest and direct, and ideally with other family around you to kindly say so.
Don’t cave if he’s defensive or angry. The truth must be spoken continuously.
Dr. Jordan Peterson - The World Is Hell Because You Don’t Speak The Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_dVYSDEf8&t=1690s
Tyranny only grows when we are unable to challenge it, until we feel it is necessary to go along with and support the official truth, the lies.
Another thought - ask the girl if she is attracted to girls or thinks she’s a lesbian.
A sad stopgap is discussing with the that she’s butch but not transgender. ‘You can be a tomboy and like girls that way, but it doesn’t MAKE you a boy.”
Listen to Camille Pagalia on being very masculine in attitude and actions but still a woman. And share her links with your family so they can share an already formulated argument against these things. I hate saying that you get more moral weight when you cite a lesbian, but it is true.
Camille Paglia: ‘Transgender Propagandists’ Committing ‘Child Abuse’
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/07/camille-paglia-transgender-propagandists-committing-child-abuse/
It is rather sexist for liberals to say that girls who used to be classified as tomboys should be identified as and transitioned into boys.
Structure your words so that you do not have to say her (his) name or use an incorrect pronoun.
Basically talk to either all of them, or whatever group of them, or “you”, or “hey there”, “hey you”. I would keep all your conversation to an absolute minimum.
They are not going to like whatever you say they will be on hyper alert for you to mess up. Just say almost nothing, it will piss them off they cannot go off on you for a screwup.
“Is she autistic spectrum? Girls with Aspsbergers are being diagnosed as transgender at several times the rate of anyone else because their mindsets are more toward the mechanical and technical, less social.”
Yes, she is. I think she is the twin that was advised to be aborted. Doctors claimed one was not right or viable. We all convinced her to keep it and not risk losing both babies.
They both were very developmentally slow babies. I was thrilled that they eventually learned to walk, expecting they may low IQ and have physical issues. But they grew up, all seemed normal til kindergarten. Then there were problems at school. They held them back a year. I think Natalia has the more severe issues and they held her twin back out of convenience,
But, I assumed they had caught up and all was fine. Obviously not. Neither girls were tomboys. They have played on numerous sports teams and had every opportunity to have a bounty of friends, Natalia is just very awkward socially and clings to her dad. He should not have allowed this, but likely preferred the sweet daughter’s company rather than his obnoxious abrasive wife.
She needs social skills training and a hobby or mission in which to excel and build her self-esteem, Perhaps a special school for exceptional learners would have been helpful.
Instead, her social isolation is being labeled as transy and this absurdity is being praised and condoned.
Yes, I will hang around with them for 1-2 hours.
I’m going with Y’all! “Y’all look great, haven’t seen you in so long!”
I will have little influence over her, and they may circle the wagons and prevent any chance for a private 1:1 conversation.
The best that I can do is send academic articles or stats that highlight the costly and irreversible mistake they are making to my brother.
I would like to tell her that God does not make mistakes and that he loves her naturally, just as she was created.
+ Senile mother has diagnosis of schizophrenia.
They twins may appear identical but intellectually and socially they differ greatly. She absolutely has some psyc. issues, but trans-ing is not a solution. Those issues will not only continue, I predict they will escalate. Both sexes will reject her company as will many future employers. She will lack for friends, dates and employment opportunities.
And if you have a good poker face, look completely indifferent all the while you are there.
That will piss them off as well. Like, whatever. Nothing out of the ordinary here.
They will not be able to rip you for eye rolling or whatever. You will take that away from them, their chance to put you in your place with some self righteous speech.
They will be very unhappy you didn’t give them an opportunity to do that by not taking the bait.
Sad they use their daughter as bait.
Fine. You have broad shoulders. Go in and blow your SIL’s relationship up. Call your brother a cuck to his face. Go in fearless. Light the harridans ass up. Obviously everybody in your family fears her wrath. Show her what wrath looks like. 13 yr olds have no clue about sex and gender. The woman is a moron. Your extended family will either stand with you or wont. If they do not, to hell with them.
Praying for Natalia and the family. She is under attack for sure.
The Transgender Movement Targets Autistic Children
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2016/autism-transgendered-movement
Prayers for your family.
I am sorry for your situation. It is never wrong to stand up for your beliefs. The enabling is the mistake. Best wishes.
Carrying a blank poker face is a great idea. They really have no respect for me and our family and could care less to hear our opinions. These two ‘parents’ would loathe the foundations and beliefs of this FR forum.
They are progressive liberals in every sense of the word.. She is an abrasive nasty witchy hog of a woman. He is a completely neutered cuck, a enuch of a man. I have no idea why he stayed married to her after the twins were born.
He worked full time and took care of them 90% of their waking hours. She was completely worthless as a mother. She went on anti-depressants for a decade or more. We were very concerned for the welfare of the girls and wondered how long he could ‘carry the load.’ She should have hired a full time nanny and returned to work. She was inept and neglectful, to say the least.
In so many ways, they disrespect my mother. They never would have gotten by with this, had my dad still been alive. And while mom can be nearly impossible to deal with, she has progressive dementia and is entitled to tolerance and respect due to her ‘grandmother’ status and age (nearly 95).
My SIL has blown up and publicly called my mother a F..king B..tch at the dinner table in front of her kids and mine. I was not there, it was Mother’s Day and my mom had travelled by train 4 hours to see them. After that outburst, Mom got back on the train and returned home. I phoned my brother, he told me, “ it’s not any of my business.”
The second time SIL cursed Mom out, my son stood up and said to his aunt, “ You can’t speak to my grandmother that way.” SIL did NOT apologize and my cuck-brother said NOTHING. He allowed his psycho rude wife to curse his own mother publicly and shame her in front of his daughters (10 YO) and the other grandkids. Again, good thing I was not there. I spoke to my brother about the episode and he just got up and left the room.
This same brother has always been eager to use my mother to free-babysit his twins for extended ritzy vacations. He has no shame and has allowed his horrible wife to control and warp him completely. He deserves her wicked wrath, but the twins do not. You can’t pick your parents.
And now he wakes up to see the damage she has done to their daughters. Regardless of this liberal idiocy, I know that deep in his shallow lil heart, he is mortified of what has become of his pride and joy. We were raised normally from a respectful home.
Natalia is his beautiful little girl. How can he let this happen to her? He is not a man, regardless of his bio apparatus. He has no spine. Satan has been winning in their household for a real long time.
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