Posted on 10/06/2017 4:09:44 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Our family received shocking news. Our niece- a beautiful 13YO identical twin girl- Natalia, has decided that she wants to be a BOY. However, her family is celebrating the news.
Natalia is now to be called 'Nace' and she dresses as a boy. We have been warned (threatened) we must use the pronouns--him or he. And it's so much worse because she has an identical lovely twin sister, Olivia. Olivia is a very feminine, modestly dressed, normal appearing happy-go lucky, girly-girl. Natalie and Olivia are naturally life-long best friends.
This is being culturally normalized and may strike a family near to you.
Thanks. She rejects me pretty well and likely pops a valium to make it through Christmas or Easter dinner at our table.
I have no constructive ideas. Only concern. What insanity! And the family is being asked to participate in the abuse of this liberal mother’s craziness.
If the two children are identical twins and one of them is really the other sex, then how can they be identical?
Saying a prayer for you and these girls.
“They are forcing my other brother to deliver the news and are just going to show-up!”
Show up where? The motel 6? Your front door? Elsewhere? I would say your house is a red line and no. And I wouldn’t go anywhere else to participate in it.
That’s a strong message there.
Saying anything bluntly will guarantee that contact will be severed and further influenced ended. I handle our situation with subtle philosophical discussions. I ask questions instead of making statements... and lead them to see what the answers are for themselves.
Indulging delusions is usually harmful.
Maybe the lesson they need is that lots of people don’t want to be around that at all. And would you let them in your door? Would you drive to someone else’s house to this twisted spectacle?
I just don’t see engaging here. And last, they aren’t exactly tippy toeing around you, so why do you need to be any less blunt?
What would you say if he was coming to the house to say he likes child porn, wants to snort crystal meth, etc?
This is someone coming by to say they want to mutilate their body.
I don’t think there’s a delicate approach to be had there.
“I feel bad for him, I know he is unhappy, but his lib loud wife rules.”
I feel for him. I’ve seen the loudmouth lib wives. He needs to man up though. I would have thrown her out years ago. Only I can be the loudmouth in the house :-).
One thing that may happen ... the girl is only 13. She might not be in her ‘rebellious’ stage yet. It happens to all teenagers whether we care to admit it or not :-).
If she sees her sisters picking up all sorts of guys, she’s going to know she could too. That might snap her out of it :-). I think there’s a decent chance of that happening ... especially if the mother conditioned her to think this way. Mother is going to regret it.
You should also say something to the kid in private if you can ... act like you’re interested in what she’s doing. You don’t need to torque the mom off ... just get a feel for what she’s really thinking.
It’s certainly true that a lot of this nonsense has crippled society mainly due to people being quiet. However, speaking your mind doesn’t necessarily mean you have to address it point blank and piss off the liberal. Do it passive aggressively by acting 100% opposite the mom would think you would act. Try and get a feel for what the girl is really thinking ... try and relate some of your teenage year experiences to her and give her a feeling that she might miss out on a lot of stuff.
Liberals do the crap they do because they *want* a fight. They *want* the attention. It kills them when they’re starved of that attention -OR- you do something that they’re not expecting ... remember, they’re conditioned ... they have a certain queue of replies to any given violation of liberal dogma ... if you do something they don’t expect, they’ll turn into a useless bag of meat having no intelligible reply to your commentary :-).
I agree with talking to your brother in private . He may not even be aware of the irreparable damage this will cause your niece if he has bought into the liberal lies. At least try to convince him to postpone any transition until she is an adult to stall this thing.
Prayers sent up for your niece.
No, they are going to my mom’s house. I suppose you’re right, it is scheduled as a ‘coming-out party’. Why they can’t let my poor old mother go to her grave not knowing this garbage is beyond the pale. She likely only has a few months left. I will be there to support my mom for a brief time.
1. I pray for Natalia that it’s just a stage and that she gets Christian psychiatric help (doubtful.) And no hormone suppression.
2. I pray my brother grows a pair and stands up to his ugly hog-wife (doubtful.)
3. I pray my other niece twin is not ruined by her freakish sister,
4. I pray my senile mother forgets the whole thing by next week.
5. I pray that this horror does not spread to any other family.
Dreadful news. I’m afraid there’s not much you can do about it. But I think you are right to continue to be loving toward her. Prayers for her and for you and your family.
” Why they cant let my poor old mother go to her grave not knowing this garbage is beyond the pale. “
Even I can’t muster up an opinion about that. Horrific. It’s shameful to think a man would do that to his own mom.
I have advice but it would not be well received.
So sad. My heart goes out to these girls and to you too. This puts you in a very tough spot. I could not keep my mouth shut, I’m afraid.
I think it’s absolutely criminal for any parent to allow child to get into this crazy faddish sex-change thing until they are 21 and can do it without permission. When your niece’s hormones kick in, she’ll probably change her mind. And then she’d really be in a bad situation.
So what’s the rush? Could you take your brother aside and try to get him to slow down this awful procedure?
Saying a prayer for you.
You are in a difficult spot. However, this is not your responsibility.
While I have myself had cordial relationships with some transgenders, I would never want to expose my family members to the confusion this behavior brings.
In other words, my biggest piece of advice is to not allow any children in your care to have contact with these family members. This could force you to openly share your convictions with the whole family, with the strong possibility of being ostracized.
Lot’s of land mines here. There is no one-size-fits-all advice. But you are going to the right place when you have decided to take it to God. Keep doing that.
I would start doing the same thing only with a twist.
You are now royalty. They must all address you as Her Galactic Eminence of the Outer Rim. You know becaue you want to be this. That is all it takes to force people to play along.
I’m so sorry for your niece and any sane family members around. I wish you all the best.
Transforming is such a fad now. One of my teenaged daughters once asked, “What would you do if I said I was transgendered?” and I replied, “Laugh.” “What?!?” “If you feel like that’s some act you have to do to get attention, whatever ... but we’re not going to play along with it.”
FOCUS in the FAMILY has articles and counselors who could advise you on your situation.
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/lifechallenges/emotional-health/counseling-services-and-referral
I'm very sorry for what your niece and her family are going through, whether or not they realize it's a problem yet. Prayers for you as you decide how best to witness to your loved ones.
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