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To: af_vet_1981

And?

Read the rest of the passage.

“16 Samuel said, “Why do you consult me, now that the Lord has departed from you and become your enemy? 17 The Lord has done what he predicted through me. The Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hands and given it to one of your neighbors—to David. 18 Because you did not obey the Lord or carry out his fierce wrath against the Amalekites, the Lord has done this to you today. 19 The Lord will deliver both Israel and you into the hands of the Philistines, and tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. The Lord will also give the army of Israel into the hands of the Philistines.”

I never hear any mention of eternal damnation, only that the kingdom has been torn away from him and his family, as was promised.

Bizarrely enough, I’m not a Calvinist on this topic, and I’m closer to your views in this debate that I butt into.

But Saul is a bad example when discussing salvation.


164 posted on 09/05/2017 7:05:36 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin
But Saul is a bad example when discussing salvation.

That would be correct if one believes in Calvinism/TULIP which does not know what to do with Saul. Otherwise, as previously referenced, it is a profitable example :

Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

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All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


First Corinthians, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verse eleven,
Second Timothy, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses sixteen to seventeen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

170 posted on 09/05/2017 6:05:28 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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