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1 posted on 09/01/2017 1:40:56 PM PDT by NYer
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A popular question and an excellent explanation.

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 09/01/2017 1:42:16 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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There are missals in Church which contain a lot of the New Testament.


3 posted on 09/01/2017 1:50:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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Catholics use a Bible that is different from that used by Protestants and, in fact, there have been occasions when the Catholic Church has been accused of adding books to the Bible.


Make a side-by-side comparison of the Ten Commandments from the Catholic and the Jewish texts. The alteration is inexplicable and to a cynic, self-serving.


4 posted on 09/01/2017 1:52:16 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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Am I allowed to snicker at the claim that lectors are trained? ;-)

Since shortly after my coming into full communion I opined that the liturgical culture of the Roman rite is “pre-printing press.” You learn the words by hearing, not by reading along.

The Mass, even the LOTH ... these are not classes; we are not studying.

Study should be a part of every adult Xtian's life. But the Mass and the offices ain't it.

5 posted on 09/01/2017 1:56:42 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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The Catholic syndicate has a long criminal record of forbidding commoners from reading the bible and was executing church members for such heresy right up thru the 1850s.

Domino go stick’em up
Domino go frisk’em

Roman Catholic “Church” Prohibited Bible Reading

The following is excerpted from an article by David Cloud entitled, “The KJV and the Latin Vulgate”.

The Council of Trent (1545-1564) placed the Bible on its list of prohibited books, and forbade any person to read the Bible without a license from a Roman Catholic bishop or inquisitor. The Council added these words: “That if any one shall dare to read or keep in his possession that book, without such a license, he shall not receive absolution till he has given it up to his ordinary.”

Rome’s attempt to keep the Bible from men has continued to recent times. Pope Pius VII (1800-1823) denounced the Bible Society and expressed shock at the circulation of the Scriptures. Pius VII said, “It is evidence from experience, that the holy Scriptures, when circulated in the vulgar tongue, have, through the temerity of men, produced more harm than benefit.” Pope Leo XII called the Protestant Bible the “Gospel of the Devil” in an encyclical letter of 1824. Pope Gregory XVI (1831-1846) railed “against the publication, distribution, reading, and possession of books of the holy Scriptures translated into the vulgar tongue.” Pope Leo XII, in January 1850, condemned the Bible Societies and admitted the fact that the distribution of Scripture has “long been condemned by the holy chair.”

http://m.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1501-1600/john-foxe-and-his-book-of-martyrs-11629919.html


7 posted on 09/01/2017 2:19:17 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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Once it was suggested to a Protestant that he read the wonderful story about Susanna found in Chapter 13 of Daniel. He said he didn’t know the story, but he would read it. The next day he said he was confused because there was no Chapter 13 in Daniel; further, he couldn’t find the story anywhere in the Bible.

In the King James Bible, Susanna is a separate book found in the Apocrypha. According to the subtitle of my version, a replica of the first edition issued in 1611, it was set apart from Daniel "because it is not in Hebrew."

11 posted on 09/01/2017 2:37:35 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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The absence of Bibles in the pews goes back to an early period in the Church when Catholics, other than the clergy, were not encouraged to read the Scriptures because the Church was concerned that the ordinary person would not understand or would misinterpret God’s word. Additionally, especially in the Middle Ages, heretical movements against the Church resulted in erroneous and corrupt interpretations.

That's one explanation. Another is they didn't want anyone else to be able to question whatever they told them was the word of God.

15 posted on 09/01/2017 2:52:02 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism wiiohout Nationalism is a fraud.)
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Mostly it’s because the Holy Sacrafice of the Mass is not a Bible study, but a time for our Confession of sins, prayers for Mercy, consideration of Christ’s holy death on the Cross, for the Consecration, for consumption of His Precious Body and Blood, hearing the Word in Sacred Scripture, for admonishment and teaching on the Gospel Reading, singing the Psalms, and out in time for football. (Sadly.)

Bibles are provided nowhere that I know of. People may bring their own if Missals are not provided.


18 posted on 09/01/2017 3:09:51 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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"Christ plus anything is Antichrist. Christ minus anything is Antichrist." -Dietrich Bonhoeffer

In Revelation, God warns against anyone who would add or take away from His word. The church of Rome stands condemned by God for doing just that- not to mention murdering innocent Christians and Jews who would not renounce their God-given faith and bow to the bastard child of the whore of Babylon whose throne resides in the Vatican.

Yes, the church of Rome has much to answer for before the judgment seat of Christ.

21 posted on 09/01/2017 3:21:31 PM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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****when Catholics, other than the clergy, were not encouraged to read the Scriptures because the Church was concerned that the ordinary person would not understand or would misinterpret God’s word.***

They remembered the scriptures well enough to cause a riot at Hippo when Jerome replaced the word “Gourd” with “Ivy”.


22 posted on 09/01/2017 3:25:01 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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There is a connection between the USA as a protestant nation and the push to have public libraries. Withholding education, knowledge, and books was historically a control mechanism by the powerful.


31 posted on 09/01/2017 3:40:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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Because reading the bible alone is not part of the Mass. We have missalettes in the pews with the bible readings of the day as well as the prayers that are said during the Mass.


35 posted on 09/01/2017 3:54:28 PM PDT by murron
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Excellent post, never mind the haters...


37 posted on 09/01/2017 4:02:18 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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I wonder how many Catholics know that during Mass they are not hearing the entire Bible over those three-year cycles? Quite a bit is NEVER covered.


56 posted on 09/01/2017 8:16:05 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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“However, the Church remains concerned over the proper interpretation of the Scriptures and considers the magisterium — the teaching authority of the Church — the pope and bishops, as the one true teaching authority. If individual Catholics were encouraged to reach their own private conclusions on God’s word, there would be thousands of different interpretations and even splinter groups, each with their own set of conclusions — not unlike other churches today. The unity of our Church would be greatly impacted.”

A disturbing thing to read.
Sounds very much like a small group that wants to control the masses.
Thinking people can read Scripture and learn from it.


94 posted on 09/02/2017 5:02:04 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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I went to Catholic Church today

I explored after the memorial

Interesting


154 posted on 09/02/2017 5:39:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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