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“It is up to you as to whether you will accept or reject the invitation. Yahuah (God) is making the invitation.”

I have already accepted God’s invitation of salvation. I believe that the Lord Jesus died for my sins and was raised again from the dead. I believe both of these events (and the intermittent burial) were the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. I believe the eye witness testimony of those who saw the resurrected Christ.

I do not believe that a full and correct understanding of the timing and means of Christ’s return is prerequisite to being received by Him when He does so. However, I do believe it is the duty and privilege of every believer to watch expectantly and wait patiently for His promised return.

This event will be categorically one of the most significant moments of history. It is bigger than the flood of Noah, Israel crossing the Red Sea while pharaoh and his armies drowned chasing them, David killing Goliath, Daniel escaping the mouth of lions, and his friends surviving the fire of the furnace. It is on the level of the creation of earth, the death and resurrection of Christ, and the coming of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. It is of paramount importance and significance.

This event will signify the coming of the Day of the Lord. For us it is a day of salvation, a day of Christ and being with Him, a day of rejoicing. For the world it will be a day of wrath and divine retribution. It will be cataclysmic like no other, even the flood of Noah.

Concerning the ENI, I think any treaty, covenant, contract, or agreement with Israel (such as a cease fire) that is specified to last precisely 7 years is noteworthy. However, this alone is not enough to qualify as a fulfillment of Daniel 9. There must be a prince of the covenant. Israel must receive this one who comes in his own name. In other words, Israel will consider him their Messiah. It appears the treaty regards Israel’s protection, not merely trade. He must break the treaty in the precise middle of this seven years.

When he does so, it will be simultaneous (or nearly so) with several other huge events. Satan is cast out of Heaven. There is no more “place” for him or his angels. I think this is part of Christ preparing a place for believers. We will become the new tenants after the Devil is evicted. Anti-Christ will also have a “deadly wound that was healed” which is apparently a false resurrection. He will desecrate the third temple by ending the daily sacrifice and setting up the abomination of desolation. He will demand worship from the whole world. The mark of the beast will be fully implemented as a requirement for all financial transactions. Those who refuse it will be killed. Christians and Jews will be the main targets of persecution.

Paul told the Thessalonians that the day of the Lord would not come until after the abomination of desolation and its revealing of the anti-Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4). This means that even in that day this event could not happen secretly. We will know when it has happened. It is a sign. Signs must appear or they are not signs.

“The Two Witnesses will begin their ministry on September 5, 2017. They will prophecy for 1260 days and be killed on February 4, 2021.”

We know that one of the two witnesses is Elijah and that part of his ministry will be to restore all things (Matthew 17:11). He will come before the Day of the Lord (Malachi 4:5). He will turn the hearts of Israel and lead them to repentance to prepare for Christ’s second coming. The two witnesses will be clothed in sackcloth, signifying their ministry of bringing repentance. They also have power to shut heaven from rain and command pestilences. Do these things line up with the judgments during the day of wrath or the beginning of sorrows that lead up to the time of the great tribulation? I think it is fairly clear. The time of famine, disease, and death during Revelation 6 seals 3 and 4 match their ministry.

Also, they will be killed and raised up three-and-a-half days later.

Revelation 11:11
Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them.

If the people of the world have seen the return of Christ, the resurrection of the bodies (from their graves) of dead believers, and the catching up of living believers, why will people who see this happen to the two witnesses be so amazed?

“You may not be aware that there are at least two (2) harvests (raptures) future to today.”

I believe the events you are describing are one and the same. While there are two harvests, and there are multiple events connected with the second coming, these particular ones describe different perspectives on the same event. One is from an earthly perspective (being gathered by angels at Christ’s appearing). The other is from the perspective of Heaven (the last-generation church arrives for its homecoming in Heaven).

“The Red Dragon will not become visible to any of us until the sun turns black on October 5, 2017 at 18:40 UTC (Revelation 6:12-13).”

Well, at least we have a very precise prediction to test whether the position you are presenting is true.

“The Great Tribulation will begin on September 5, 2017.”

How will it be clear that it has begun?

“I also know that The Great Multitude in White Robes is in heaven no later than October 5, 2017. Look at what they are holding in their hands - palm branches! They are celebrating the Festival of Ingathering, which this years begins on October 5, 2017.”

Wouldn’t that be an incredibly short “great tribulation?”

More importantly, why would their coming out of the great tribulation need to happen on this particular Festival of Ingathering? Why not in one, or two, or three years?

“I have sought and been given his permission to state as fact that the events of Revelation Chapters 6, 7, and 8 will occur on October 5, 2017.”

This statement is confusing for numerous reasons. First, if God has revealed this and given permission to share it, then it must be understandable (not vague) and verifiable (we will know when it has happened). It appears you do not expect to be around for that discussion if you believe the rapture will take us out of here before then. But second, the seven seals could in no way happen on a single day. So are you saying that they will all be finished by October 5, or they will start? Or do you mean something else?

I find that you have compiled a lot of useful information. However, I feel you have locked into a dangerous path of setting dates for many things which are, by the basis you have provided, very speculative. Yet you are staking so much on the accuracy of these predictions. It is more concerning, even alarming, that you make such bold claims independently. If this is the work God is doing, and if it is really Him who has revealed these things, I would expect a long line of other godly believers confirming the same message. Otherwise, I would expect God to have given you some signs of your own to prove to others and convince us that your message is from God.

I personally do not have to have signs if such claims can be proved from the Bible alone. However, there are too many weak links in your arguments to consider the conclusions you are reaching reliable. It is far too speculative to place all of our hopes and dreams on specific dates which will certainly dash them to pieces when they do not come to pass. That is not how God operates. I do not see God operating through these predictions you are making, as they do not align with how he has operated in the past.

While I try to keep an open mind, I must also apply God’s instructions regarding prophecies:

1 Thessalonians 5:20-21
Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good.

You obviously have invested a lot of time into researching this. And I think it is a shame to put all of that effort at stake conditional upon being right about a few exact dates. If and when these are wrong (which in my lifetime has been the case every time anyone made such claims) it will greatly diminish the value of all of your research.

Every time I’ve seen date-setting, it led to mockery by unbelievers when it did not come to pass as predicted. And this leads to an extremely important point. What does date-setting accomplish? Wouldn’t it be far more helpful to simply exhort people to come to Christ now? If someone might die tomorrow rather than in October, don’t they need salvation now? Shouldn’t believers be prepared now? Shouldn’t they be mindful of Christ’s return regardless of the date and be busy working for the kingdom today?

The message of the Gospel and Christ’s return do not hinge upon the ability to predict exact dates (or timeframes and deadlines). I hope that is the lesson you will learn when your predictions do not come to pass, or preferably you will come to see this beforehand and correct your message before the harm is done.