Posted on 08/24/2017 12:04:15 PM PDT by amessenger4god
Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard--and keep it and repent. If therefore you shall not watch, I will come like a thief, and you shall not know at what hour I will come upon you.
The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John.
Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief.
Mockers inside and outside the Church are using just a handful of Scriptures at the expense of all others. They are choosing to be willfully ignorant. They are also leveling two false accusations, which tells me that their reasoning is not coming from the Holy Spirit, but from a much darker place:
1. The Revelation 12 Sign is astrology. No Christian proponent of the Revelation 12 Sign is worshiping or bowing down to the stars. Neither are they divining their life with the horoscope. The astrology accusation is patently false, a lie of the worst kind, and at complete odds with Scripture (Gen. 1:14, Job 9:9, 38:31-32, Ps. 19:1-2, Amos 5:8, Joel 2:30-31, Lk. 21:11, 25, Rev. 12:1-2).
2. Talking about the Revelation 12 Sign is date setting. As someone well-acquainted with the teachings of the various proponents of the 9/23 alignment, I can say with confidence that neither they nor I are saying the rapture/second coming/end of the world will definitely happen on September 23rd. There are a few exceptions - a few people saying the rapture will definitely happen on September 21st or 23rd, but for the most part the only definitive assertion made is that a specific sign described in Revelation 12:1-2 will be fulfilled on September 23rd. The evidence is crystal clear for that.
I also want to point out that the Great Sign is not happening in a vacuum. Let's not be so full of doubts and consumed with the cares of this world that we forget the fact that Jesus really is coming back. And soon. We've all been very focused on this September sign, but let's not forget the other overwhelming and mounting evidence that the end of the age is upon us:
THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE
AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH
20 SIGNS WE'VE ARRIVED AT THE END OF THE AGE
10 REASONS JESUS WILL COME BACK IN OUR LIFETIME
19 REASONS THE RAPTURE COULD HAPPEN IN 2017
So if you want to remain blind and ignorant then God will allow you to be. Let that day come upon you like a thief. If you want to latch on to two Scriptures at the expense of everything else and in the face of all of God's signs and wonders, then that is your choice, but don't expect those of us watching to join the unscriptural charade.
The sickest statement I've ever seen on this forum.
Really??? You wanna see sick, look at this...Here's a teaching moment from Jesus...
Mat_15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
Mar 7:18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him (nor can it help him spiritually)
Mar 7:19 Because it entereth not into his heart (soul, spirit), but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
So the next time one of your priests tells you that eating that wafer is food for your soul, or spirit, you can tell him Jesus says, 'nuts'...
You might wonder why Jesus would even bring this up...Eating that wafer for spiritual benefit did not start with the Catholic religion...It was a pagan practice long before Jesus even showed up...He knew all about their false teaching and put that in there to warn us and you...
And if you were standing next to him you may say, 'yes, He IS the vine'...
Nope...John was brought ahead into the future...He was viewing the Tribulation...What WAS is our time...What IS is the events during the Tribulation...What will be is the Millennium, and after that...
Great thread - thank you very much for posting it.
unlearner,
Go to my website article “The Rescue of the Bride” at http://october-5-2017.com
and/or my YouTube channel “TheRescueOfTheBride”
I have answers for each of your questions.
I am sharing with you what Yahuah (God) has shared with me.
Blessings to you and your loved ones.
Dan :-)
So, if I may understand correctly (without sifting through it all) there are big things happening on September 21 or by September 21?
Just want to be certain if it is ON that date or BY that date.
(yes which happens to coincide with U.N. ‘Peace and Safety’ Day (a couple other adjectives they have in there).
Mat 24
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mark 13
30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
Luke 17
24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
Lightning is a bright flash across the entire heavens: an epiphany, electricity.
"This generation" - has it ever been up to anything good? A KJV search on the phrase ought to enlighten anyone actually interested.
It's the evil, wicked, faithless, perverse, adulterous generation of vipers.
This generation is that generation. Heaven and earth aren't passing away yet. Of that day and hour (of the passing away of heaven and earth), no man knows.
But as for the Days of Noe, there's a date: 17th day of the 2nd month. The flood of light (reality, truth) is going to destroy people. Light travels a bit faster that water, so beware, because Noah entered the ark one week out, rounded up the animals, and then entered for the long haul, sealing the door shut.
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It will be Tishri 1, but there is no guarantee that it will fall on the computed date. The visibility of the new moon is not something that can be consistently predicted. It often fools the experts.
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O.K. thanks.
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The passing of the material universe is 1000 years in the future.
It is Yom Teruah, the Day of Trumpets, the gathering of Yeshua’s Kehillah, that matters now. That is the unpredictable visibility of the new moon of the 7th month (or any month for that matter).
Many would like to pretend that it is completely unknowable, but that is nonsense. If it doesn’t show on the predicted day, it is the next day.
Everyone will certainly know when Yeshua rips a hole in our universe to gather his sheep! There will be gnashing of teeth for sure.
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https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/monthly.html?year=2017&month=9&country=34
Here’s Time and Date for September 2017.
“The Great Multitude in White Robes come out of The Great Tribulation (Revelation 7:14), so their gathering cannot occur before the start of The Great Tribulation (September 5, 2017).”
The Great Tribulation begins exactly in the middle of Daniel’s seventieth week. I should have added this very important detail to my list of things that occur at that time. I do not see evidence that seals 1-4 (which precede the Great Tribulation according to the Olivet discourse), have occurred yet. Particularly, we have not seen a seven-year treaty between anti-Christ and Israel or the 3 and 1/2 year prophesying by the two witnesses who will be killed in the middle of Daniel’s seventieth week.
“The elect will be raptured on October 5, 2017 no later than about a half an hour before 19:10 UTC. Ref. Luke 21:25-28”
The problem with using this passage is that it is describing celestial events and Christ’s return AFTER the Great Tribulation.
While I do believe some of what you have put together makes sense, I do not see any evidence of the Red Dragon planet being or becoming visible yet. Your assumptions of when it will cause an eclipse seem impossible to line up with the order of events in Daniel 9-12, the Olivet discourse, and Revelation 5.
In short, I think you are on to something with the Red Dragon planet. But I am 100% certain it will not be colliding with earth or leading to a rapture on October 5th of this year. Most people who make such predictions end up with egg on their face, and doing recalculations and reexamining the relevant texts only after their predictions fail. It would be better to correct the errors now, because doing so after-the-fact will harm your credibility.
So far I am 100% error-free on such predictions... because I have not made any. But I am aware and do see many of the things you point out on your website. We should be watching for the signs of Christ’s return. The signs in the sky are among them, but there are others which must take place also.
unlearner,
You are very close to the truth. I believe that there is a place being readied for you at Yahusha’s (Jesus’) table, otherwise you would not have been brought to my attention.
It is my job to wake you up and prepare you for the harvest. I take my work seriously.
It is up to you as to whether you will accept or reject the invitation. Yahuah (God) is making the invitation.
“midst” is a possible interpretation of the “middle” word used in Daniel 9:27.
With that in mind, you may not be aware that we are currently in the “midst” of a “seven” year treaty involves Israel. Here is the Wiki on the ENI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Neighbourhood_Instrument
As the ENI run from January 1, 2014 to December 31, 2020, then September 5, 2017 would definitely qualify as being in the “midst” of the “seven.”
Seals 1-4 may well be open.
1) False Christs: Do a simple Google search on “False Christs”
2) Peace taken from the earth: Think Europe being invaded under the guise of “diversity”
3) Economic tumult: All of the markets are constantly manipulated to keep us from seeing that the economic situation is worse than The Great Depression.
4) War over a quarter of the earth: Wars have been ongoing for our entire lives. We just do not see them in our own back yards.
The Two Witnesses will begin their ministry on September 5, 2017. They will prophecy for 1260 days and be killed on February 4, 2021. Their ministry runs through The Great Tribulation and most of The Day of Yahuah (The Day of the Lord).
You may not be aware that there are at least two (2) harvests (raptures) future to today.
1) First harvest: The Great Multitude in White Robes (Revelation 7:9ff). This group comes out of The Great Tribulation (Revelation 7:14). It is not a pre-trib rapture. This harvest occurs in the context of one third (1/3) of the stars falling from the firmament to the earth (Revelation 12:4, 6:13, 8:7, 8:12, 9:1). Believers are lifted from the earth to the throne room to meet Yahusha (Jesus).
2) Second harvest: The Rapture of the Elect (Matthew 24:29-31). This group is harvested at the end of The Great Tribulation (”immediately after the distress of those days”). It is not a pre-trib rapture. This harvest occurs in the context of all of the remaining stars falling from the firmament to the earth (Isaiah 34:4, 34:8). Yahusha (The Lord) himself descends from heaven to pick up believers (Tribulation Saints).
The Red Dragon will not become visible to any of us until the sun turns black on October 5, 2017 at 18:40 UTC (Revelation 6:12-13). The Red Dragon is not a planet. The Red Dragon is Satan (Revelation 12:9). We have a description of the Red Dragon in scripture. It does not appear to be describing a “planet.”
I do not know the date of harvest (rapture). I do know, however, that The Great Multitude in White Robes comes out of The Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation will begin on September 5, 2017.
I also know that The Great Multitude in White Robes is in heaven no later than October 5, 2017. Look at what they are holding in their hands - palm branches! They are celebrating the Festival of Ingathering, which this years begins on October 5, 2017. Palm branches are an integral part of the celebration of the Festival of Ingathering (Leviticus 23:40). The Festival of Ingathering is also known as The Festival of Tabernacles or Sukkot.
Yahuah (God) has given me nine (9) different confirmations that pinpoint October 5, 2017. I have sought and been given his permission to state as fact that the events of Revelation Chapters 6, 7, and 8 will occur on October 5, 2017.
I am not worried about my credibility. I only care about the truth.
Please read through “The Rescue of the Bride” at http://october-5-2017.com and watch the associated videos. My YouTube channel is “TheRescueOfTheBride”
Blessings to you and your loved ones.
Dan :-)
The moon was sighted Wednesday evening.
(which confirms what I stated earlier: Its a difficult event to predict)
Rood's calendar (printed shortly after the Aviv) has it correct.
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You’re rushing the Tribulation!
Daniels 70th Shabbat begins this spring, but the Trib cannot begin until 42 months later.
The gathering of the Bride will be 42 months after that, in 2024.
(IOW, the trib is definitely not 7 years long)
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oops!
Spring should say “Fall.”
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I also want to point out that the Great Sign is not happening in a vacuum.
Except, you know, it would be in vacuum.
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