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No One Knows The Day Or Hour
Unsealed ^ | 8/24/17 | Gary

Posted on 08/24/2017 12:04:15 PM PDT by amessenger4god

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To: ebb tide
Congratulations.

The sickest statement I've ever seen on this forum.

Really??? You wanna see sick, look at this...Here's a teaching moment from Jesus...

Mat_15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

Mar 7:18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him (nor can it help him spiritually)
Mar 7:19 Because it entereth not into his heart
(soul, spirit), but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

So the next time one of your priests tells you that eating that wafer is food for your soul, or spirit, you can tell him Jesus says, 'nuts'...

You might wonder why Jesus would even bring this up...Eating that wafer for spiritual benefit did not start with the Catholic religion...It was a pagan practice long before Jesus even showed up...He knew all about their false teaching and put that in there to warn us and you...

101 posted on 08/24/2017 5:52:58 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: FatherofFive
"I am the vine; you are the branches.

And if you were standing next to him you may say, 'yes, He IS the vine'...

102 posted on 08/24/2017 5:54:48 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor
John was told to write what was, what is, and what is to come. Chapter 12 of Revelation is a parenthetical look back in time.

Nope...John was brought ahead into the future...He was viewing the Tribulation...What WAS is our time...What IS is the events during the Tribulation...What will be is the Millennium, and after that...

103 posted on 08/24/2017 5:59:50 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: amessenger4god; SaveFerris; Lera; metmom; Roman_War_Criminal

Great thread - thank you very much for posting it.


104 posted on 08/24/2017 6:06:28 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: All
By the way, we now have a date: October 5.

Peace process over in 45 days.

105 posted on 08/24/2017 6:38:20 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: unlearner

unlearner,

Go to my website article “The Rescue of the Bride” at http://october-5-2017.com

and/or my YouTube channel “TheRescueOfTheBride”

I have answers for each of your questions.

I am sharing with you what Yahuah (God) has shared with me.

Blessings to you and your loved ones.

Dan :-)


106 posted on 08/24/2017 7:00:55 PM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: amessenger4god

http://www.patburt.com/


107 posted on 08/24/2017 7:23:47 PM PDT by Maudeen (This world is not my home.)
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To: editor-surveyor

So, if I may understand correctly (without sifting through it all) there are big things happening on September 21 or by September 21?

Just want to be certain if it is ON that date or BY that date.

(yes which happens to coincide with U.N. ‘Peace and Safety’ Day (a couple other adjectives they have in there).


108 posted on 08/24/2017 7:27:08 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: amessenger4god
What I want to talk about now is the ad infinitum repeat of "no one knows the day or hour" (Matt. 24:36, Mk. 13:32) as an argument against the Revelation 12 Sign.

Mat 24

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Mark 13

30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

Luke 17

24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Lightning is a bright flash across the entire heavens: an epiphany, electricity.

"This generation" - has it ever been up to anything good? A KJV search on the phrase ought to enlighten anyone actually interested.

It's the evil, wicked, faithless, perverse, adulterous generation of vipers.

This generation is that generation. Heaven and earth aren't passing away yet. Of that day and hour (of the passing away of heaven and earth), no man knows.

But as for the Days of Noe, there's a date: 17th day of the 2nd month. The flood of light (reality, truth) is going to destroy people. Light travels a bit faster that water, so beware, because Noah entered the ark one week out, rounded up the animals, and then entered for the long haul, sealing the door shut.

109 posted on 08/24/2017 7:48:41 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: SaveFerris

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It will be Tishri 1, but there is no guarantee that it will fall on the computed date. The visibility of the new moon is not something that can be consistently predicted. It often fools the experts.
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110 posted on 08/24/2017 8:33:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

O.K. thanks.


111 posted on 08/24/2017 8:39:12 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: Ezekiel; amessenger4god

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The passing of the material universe is 1000 years in the future.

It is Yom Teruah, the Day of Trumpets, the gathering of Yeshua’s Kehillah, that matters now. That is the unpredictable visibility of the new moon of the 7th month (or any month for that matter).

Many would like to pretend that it is completely unknowable, but that is nonsense. If it doesn’t show on the predicted day, it is the next day.

Everyone will certainly know when Yeshua rips a hole in our universe to gather his sheep! There will be gnashing of teeth for sure.
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112 posted on 08/24/2017 8:47:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: All

https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/monthly.html?year=2017&month=9&country=34

Here’s Time and Date for September 2017.


113 posted on 08/24/2017 8:50:38 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

“The Great Multitude in White Robes come out of The Great Tribulation (Revelation 7:14), so their gathering cannot occur before the start of The Great Tribulation (September 5, 2017).”

The Great Tribulation begins exactly in the middle of Daniel’s seventieth week. I should have added this very important detail to my list of things that occur at that time. I do not see evidence that seals 1-4 (which precede the Great Tribulation according to the Olivet discourse), have occurred yet. Particularly, we have not seen a seven-year treaty between anti-Christ and Israel or the 3 and 1/2 year prophesying by the two witnesses who will be killed in the middle of Daniel’s seventieth week.

“The elect will be raptured on October 5, 2017 no later than about a half an hour before 19:10 UTC. Ref. Luke 21:25-28”

The problem with using this passage is that it is describing celestial events and Christ’s return AFTER the Great Tribulation.

While I do believe some of what you have put together makes sense, I do not see any evidence of the Red Dragon planet being or becoming visible yet. Your assumptions of when it will cause an eclipse seem impossible to line up with the order of events in Daniel 9-12, the Olivet discourse, and Revelation 5.

In short, I think you are on to something with the Red Dragon planet. But I am 100% certain it will not be colliding with earth or leading to a rapture on October 5th of this year. Most people who make such predictions end up with egg on their face, and doing recalculations and reexamining the relevant texts only after their predictions fail. It would be better to correct the errors now, because doing so after-the-fact will harm your credibility.

So far I am 100% error-free on such predictions... because I have not made any. But I am aware and do see many of the things you point out on your website. We should be watching for the signs of Christ’s return. The signs in the sky are among them, but there are others which must take place also.


114 posted on 08/24/2017 8:57:37 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

unlearner,

You are very close to the truth. I believe that there is a place being readied for you at Yahusha’s (Jesus’) table, otherwise you would not have been brought to my attention.

It is my job to wake you up and prepare you for the harvest. I take my work seriously.

It is up to you as to whether you will accept or reject the invitation. Yahuah (God) is making the invitation.

“midst” is a possible interpretation of the “middle” word used in Daniel 9:27.

With that in mind, you may not be aware that we are currently in the “midst” of a “seven” year treaty involves Israel. Here is the Wiki on the ENI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Neighbourhood_Instrument

As the ENI run from January 1, 2014 to December 31, 2020, then September 5, 2017 would definitely qualify as being in the “midst” of the “seven.”

Seals 1-4 may well be open.

1) False Christs: Do a simple Google search on “False Christs”

2) Peace taken from the earth: Think Europe being invaded under the guise of “diversity”

3) Economic tumult: All of the markets are constantly manipulated to keep us from seeing that the economic situation is worse than The Great Depression.

4) War over a quarter of the earth: Wars have been ongoing for our entire lives. We just do not see them in our own back yards.

The Two Witnesses will begin their ministry on September 5, 2017. They will prophecy for 1260 days and be killed on February 4, 2021. Their ministry runs through The Great Tribulation and most of The Day of Yahuah (The Day of the Lord).

You may not be aware that there are at least two (2) harvests (raptures) future to today.

1) First harvest: The Great Multitude in White Robes (Revelation 7:9ff). This group comes out of The Great Tribulation (Revelation 7:14). It is not a pre-trib rapture. This harvest occurs in the context of one third (1/3) of the stars falling from the firmament to the earth (Revelation 12:4, 6:13, 8:7, 8:12, 9:1). Believers are lifted from the earth to the throne room to meet Yahusha (Jesus).

2) Second harvest: The Rapture of the Elect (Matthew 24:29-31). This group is harvested at the end of The Great Tribulation (”immediately after the distress of those days”). It is not a pre-trib rapture. This harvest occurs in the context of all of the remaining stars falling from the firmament to the earth (Isaiah 34:4, 34:8). Yahusha (The Lord) himself descends from heaven to pick up believers (Tribulation Saints).

The Red Dragon will not become visible to any of us until the sun turns black on October 5, 2017 at 18:40 UTC (Revelation 6:12-13). The Red Dragon is not a planet. The Red Dragon is Satan (Revelation 12:9). We have a description of the Red Dragon in scripture. It does not appear to be describing a “planet.”

I do not know the date of harvest (rapture). I do know, however, that The Great Multitude in White Robes comes out of The Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation will begin on September 5, 2017.

I also know that The Great Multitude in White Robes is in heaven no later than October 5, 2017. Look at what they are holding in their hands - palm branches! They are celebrating the Festival of Ingathering, which this years begins on October 5, 2017. Palm branches are an integral part of the celebration of the Festival of Ingathering (Leviticus 23:40). The Festival of Ingathering is also known as The Festival of Tabernacles or Sukkot.

Yahuah (God) has given me nine (9) different confirmations that pinpoint October 5, 2017. I have sought and been given his permission to state as fact that the events of Revelation Chapters 6, 7, and 8 will occur on October 5, 2017.

I am not worried about my credibility. I only care about the truth.

Please read through “The Rescue of the Bride” at http://october-5-2017.com and watch the associated videos. My YouTube channel is “TheRescueOfTheBride”

Blessings to you and your loved ones.

Dan :-)


115 posted on 08/25/2017 6:35:00 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: SaveFerris; All
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That calendar is off by a day.

The moon was sighted Wednesday evening.

(which confirms what I stated earlier: Its a difficult event to predict)

Rood's calendar (printed shortly after the Aviv) has it correct.

Rood's Calendar for September
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116 posted on 08/25/2017 7:13:15 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

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You’re rushing the Tribulation!

Daniels 70th Shabbat begins this spring, but the Trib cannot begin until 42 months later.

The gathering of the Bride will be 42 months after that, in 2024.
(IOW, the trib is definitely not 7 years long)
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117 posted on 08/25/2017 7:18:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

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oops!

Spring should say “Fall.”
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118 posted on 08/25/2017 7:21:16 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed; All
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Teaser for Program Thursday Sept 14 at 8:00 PM regarding "The Sign"
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119 posted on 08/25/2017 7:36:00 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: amessenger4god
I also want to point out that the Great Sign is not happening in a vacuum.

Except, you know, it would be in vacuum.

120 posted on 08/25/2017 8:21:33 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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