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To: Luircin
Good works and faith go together. If good works don’t exist, faith doesn’t exist.

The it's not faith alone, is it?

I am so sick of how some Catholics just continually assume that we don’t preach good works, even if salvation comes through faith. Why is that?

Perhaps it is because we cannot get a straight answer on whether faith must be accompanied by good works.

384 posted on 07/19/2017 6:55:52 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Perhaps it is because we cannot get a straight answer on whether faith must be accompanied by good works.

Must be?

How many times do I have to post THIS before someone will actually READ it??!!??


These guys asked Jesus a DIRECT question; and He replied with a DIRECT answer:

John 6:25-40

25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?”

26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

30 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’[c]

32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”


413 posted on 07/19/2017 10:01:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius

Perhaps it is because we cannot get a straight answer on whether faith must be accompanied by good works.

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Right. Riiiight.

I gave you a straight answer. It’s not my fault that it doesn’t fit in with Romanist works-salvation.

http://bookofconcord.org/sd-goodworks.php

Read that. Then feel free to argue against that instead of the strawman that the Romanists just LOVE to prop up. Just a warning, though. It may be a little more difficult after that than dispensing condescending comments.


431 posted on 07/19/2017 11:31:19 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Petrosius; Luircin
Perhaps it is because we cannot get a straight answer on whether faith must be accompanied by good works.

You need to read more carefully if that's what you think because you are so wrong on that.

Good works always accompany salvation as the RESULT of becoming saved by faith but they do not contribute to it in the least.

They neither get you saved nor keep you saved.

And lack of them does not lose your salvation.

They are an indicator of genuine saving faith and lack of them would be a good indicator that something is wrong and the person who is not displaying them needs to consider if the lack of works is an indicator of lack of genuine saving faith.

But they in now way contribute to becoming or staying saved. The salvation is completely independent of works involved.

452 posted on 07/19/2017 4:54:16 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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