The Surprising Discovery About Those Colonialist, Proselytizing Missionaries

Christianity Today ^ | January 8, 2014 | Andrea Palpant Dilley

[Elsie]

Read the book.

Can I borrow yours?

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Matthew 15:1   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

[ The Tradition of the Elders ] Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said,

 

Matthew 15:2   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

“Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands before they eat.”

 

Matthew 15:3   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition?

 

Matthew 15:6   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

So, for the sake of your tradition, you make void the word of God.

 

Mark 7:3   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

(For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, do not eat unless they thoroughly wash their hands, thus observing the tradition of the elders;

 

Mark 7:5   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

So the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not live according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?”

 

Mark 7:8   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

You abandon the commandment of God and hold to human tradition.”

 

Mark 7:9   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

Then he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition!

 

Mark 7:13   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

thus making void the word of God through your tradition that you have handed on. And you do many things like this.”

 

Acts 6:14   Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition

For we have heard him say, that this Jesus of Nazareth shall destroy this place, and shall change the traditions which Moses delivered unto us.

 

1 Corinthians 11:2   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

[ Head Coverings ] I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions just as I handed them on to you.

 

Galatians 1:14   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

I advanced in Judaism beyond many among my people of the same age, for I was far more zealous for the traditions of my ancestors.

 

Colossians 2:8   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ.

 

2 Thessalonians 2:14   Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition

Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15  New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by our letter.

 

2 Thessalonians 3:6   New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition

[ Warning against Idleness ] Now we command you, beloved, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from believers who are living in idleness and not according to the tradition that they received from us.

 

1 Peter 1:18   Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition

Knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things as gold or silver, from your vain conversation of the tradition of your fathers:

 

 

 

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TRADITION!!

 

 

 

 

[Elsie]

Yes, but someone like St. Irenaeus is more reputable than Rev. Isaac Boyle.

I just LOVE the writings of reputable Catholic Early Church Fathers!!!

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As regards the oft-quoted Mt. 16:18, note the following Early Church Fathers promise in the profession of faith of Vatican 1:

 • Basil of Seleucia, Oratio 25:

'You are Christ, Son of the living God.'...Now Christ called this confession a rock, and he named the one who confessed it 'Peter,' perceiving the appellation which was suitable to the author of this confession. For this is the solemn rock of religion, this the basis of salvation, this the wall of faith and the foundation of truth: 'For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Christ Jesus.' To whom be glory and power forever. — Oratio XXV.4, M.P.G., Vol. 85, Col. 296-297.

• Bede, Matthaei Evangelium Expositio, 3:

You are Peter and on this rock from which you have taken your name, that is, on myself, I will build my Church, upon that perfection of faith which you confessed I will build my Church by whose society of confession should anyone deviate although in himself he seems to do great things he does not belong to the building of my Church...Metaphorically it is said to him on this rock, that is, the Saviour which you confessed, the Church is to be built, who granted participation to the faithful confessor of his name. — 80Homily 23, M.P.L., Vol. 94, Col. 260. Cited by Karlfried Froehlich, Formen, Footnote #204, p. 156 [unable to verify by me].

• Cassiodorus, Psalm 45.5:

'It will not be moved' is said about the Church to which alone that promise has been given: 'You are Peter and upon this rock I shall build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.' For the Church cannot be moved because it is known to have been founded on that most solid rock, namely, Christ the Lord. — Expositions in the Psalms, Volume 1; Volume 51, Psalm 45.5, p. 455

• Chrysostom (John) [who affirmed Peter was a rock, but here not the rock in Mt. 16:18]:

Therefore He added this, 'And I say unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church; that is, on the faith of his confession. — Chrysostom, Homilies on the Gospel of Saint Matthew, Homily LIIl; Philip Schaff, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf110.iii.LII.html)

• Cyril of Alexandria:

When [Peter] wisely and blamelessly confessed his faith to Jesus saying, 'You are Christ, Son of the living God,' Jesus said to divine Peter: 'You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church.' Now by the word 'rock', Jesus indicated, I think, the immoveable faith of the disciple.”. — Cyril Commentary on Isaiah 4.2.

• Origen, Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew (Book XII):

“For a rock is every disciple of Christ of whom those drank who drank of the spiritual rock which followed them, 1 Corinthians 10:4 and upon every such rock is built every word of the church, and the polity in accordance with it; for in each of the perfect, who have the combination of words and deeds and thoughts which fill up the blessedness, is the church built by God.'

“For all bear the surname ‘rock’ who are the imitators of Christ, that is, of the spiritual rock which followed those who are being saved, that they may drink from it the spiritual draught. But these bear the surname of rock just as Christ does. But also as members of Christ deriving their surname from Him they are called Christians, and from the rock, Peters.” — Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew (Book XII), sect. 10,11 ( http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/101612.htm)

• Hilary of Potier, On the Trinity (Book II):

Thus our one immovable foundation, our one blissful rock of faith, is the confession from Peter's mouth, Thou art the Son of the living God. On it we can base an answer to every objection with which perverted ingenuity or embittered treachery may assail the truth."-- (Hilary of Potier, On the Trinity (Book II), para 23; Philip Schaff, editor, The Nicene & Post Nicene Fathers Series 2, Vol 9.

[Elsie]

I have no doubt whatever I post you will call it anti-Catholic.

You need HELP! son; from the Untier of Knots

[Elsie]

Mother of the Rising Sun, Immaculate, our Advocate, Helper in moments of affliction, Mother of God and made by Him our Mother, this is how Mary, Undoer of Knots is presented. Above all, She comes as the Queen of Mercy, the one who knows all about us, who has compassion for us and hurries to rescue us, praying for each one of us to Her beloved Jesus.

Seems to me; since it is claimed that she is in Heaven now; she could just TALK to Jesus!

[Elsie]

Honorable Mention from the reputable Plagiarists “R” Us Society!

[ealgeone]

Makes you wonder how Romam Catholics survived all those years without the Rosary.

[Elsie]

Well, the sexually transmitted and other diseases the Catholic missionaries brought with them were obviously not helpful to those areas.

Give Rome a little break here.

I highly doubt the ships were manned by saints and Catholic missionaries!

Seamen of all persuasions were used.

[rwa265]

Catholics Christianized the whole of Europe.

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My son just gave me the book that is reviewed in the thread at the following link. very interesting.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2152227/posts?page=5#5

[daniel1212]

Not everyone’s life revolves around Catholicism and recognizing the accomplishments of others besides Catholics is not hate, bashing, or antagonism.

Indeed. Apparently, giving some credit to Prots instead of Rome is intolerable.

[daniel1212]

Catholics Christianized the whole of Europe.

That’s a troll post; seems designed to antagonize.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

X

[Tennessee Nana]

:)

[RegulatorCountry]

Such a claim, that Roman Catholics Christianized the whole of Europe, also ignores the historical complaint of longstanding among certain Eastern Europeans that they were proselytized and converted in ancient times by Cyril and Methodius into Eastern Orthodoxy, only to be centuries later oppressed and attacked by Roman Catholics after Rome went into schism from the EO. They were very insulted and outraged to be forced to give up Christian beliefs that they’d held for many centuries. See: Jan Huss, Hussites, Moravians. This occurred well over a century before Martin Luther.