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To: ealgeone
What did Montfort say that contradicted what I just said? He said the same Mass I go to every week. Did he ever offer the Holy Sacrifice of Mass to Mary?

In the ancient world, people didn't just pray to the gods/God, they sacrificed to them. Sacrifice was always seen as a greater act than prayer.

I know you don't share our sacrificial theology, but you can't judge us by your limited standards either. What we define as the highest form of prayer and the supreme sacrifice is never, ever, ever offered to Mary. Not even close. So there remains an infinite gulf between her and God at the very heart of Catholicism, which even Montfort's rapturous devotion cannot ever bridge.

82 posted on 07/09/2017 5:29:57 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud
I'll dig up Montfort later...but for now I offer this.

Second Vatican Council (Lumen gentium ## 61-62) 1 Timothy 2:5 and Titus 2:13-14
Mary invoked by Roman Catholicism as Advocate, Auxiliatrix, Adiuxtrix and Mediatrix. For this reason, the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Auxiliatrix, Adiutrix, and Mediatrix. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Timothy 2:5

13looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, 14who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds. Titus 2:13-14


83 posted on 07/09/2017 5:50:55 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Claud

So there remains an infinite gulf between her and God at the very heart of Catholicism, which even Montfort’s rapturous devotion cannot ever bridge.


What is overlooked about Montfort is that his motto was “God alone.” That everything flows from God and everything returns to God. For Montfort, the overarching principle regarding the role of Mary is that it does not exist on its own, that it is entirely reliant on God.

The handbook at the link gives a more complete description of the spirituality of St. Louis de Montfort.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/Montfort/Handbook/Mary.htm


85 posted on 07/09/2017 11:01:14 AM PDT by rwa265
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